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On 04/02/2014 09:42 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 2 April 2014 14:26, Stephen Gallagher <sgall...@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>> Joe Zeff <j...@zeff.us> writes:
>>> 
>>>> On 04/01/2014 09:49 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>>>> That would be the responsibility of the WM's themselves.
>>>>> WM's have to add support.  Not the other way around as you
>>>>> seem to think.
>>>> 
>>>> Which is why I pointed out that the question was if fvwm
>>>> works with Wayland, not the other way around.
>>> 
> 
>> This means that in order to get all these capabilities, the
>> individual Window Managers will need to adapt to the new API. If
>> they do not, there is effort to provide a compatibility layer
>> called XWayland that will allow it to emulate the behavior of a
>> classic X Windows environment. This is still a work in progress
>> (and is not perfect), but it's an effort to ease this migration.
>> 
> 
> I know you weren't reply to me, but this is really the point I
> wanted to make: to take advantage of Wayland it makes absolute
> sense that applications will need to use a new API. But breaking
> WMs, toolkits and applications (whether they use toolkits or X
> directly doesn't much matter if they don't work) and saying it's
> their fault for not updating isn't really a goer, a compatibility
> layer is a must. If the

I don't think anyone has ever said that, except the baseless
accusations made in this very thread :)

As I said, XWayland exists for this very purpose. It's not perfect,
but neither is the rest of Wayland, yet. This need is not being
ignored by anyone.


> new API is so much better people will move eventually if the new 
> features are needed. If they're not needed then forcing a change
> is just creating unnecessary work.
> 

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