Am 12.07.2013 22:17, schrieb d...@davenjudy.org:
>>
>>
>> Am 12.07.2013 20:24, schrieb David G.Miller:
>>> Fernando Lozano <fernando <at> lozano.eti.br> writes:
>>>>> [As I changed the subject, let me clear: IPv6 still compiled in the
>>> kernel. Just the network interfaces configs
>>> <SNIP>
>>>
>>> Perhaps Fedora is the wrong distribution for you.
>>>
>>> The whole idea behind Fedora is for it to be an "engineering proving
>>> ground" where new technologies (like IPv6) are rolled out for real world
>>> use.  In the case of IPv6, this includes hopefully providing the tools
>>> required for users to be able to securely run a Fedora system with IPv6
>>> enabled.  If there is a problem with the tools provided then the answer
>>> is
>>> to fix the tools and/or provide additional tools; not pull back from a
>>> technology that IS coming
>>
>> why this polemic answer?
>>
>> it is legit and recommended to disable ipv6 link-local on
>> machines inside a network with a ipv4-only gateway because
>> it is not needed, makes no sense and you should *never*
>> enable network capabilities which are not used
>>
>> the main problem is not be able to *disable* it if
>> you know what you are doing and know why therese
>> is no need for ipv6 in your environment
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982740
>>
> I don't consider my response to be "polemic."  Just pointing out that
> Fedora tends to be a "bleeding edge", development distribution.

that doe snot mean ipv6 has to be mandatory

> As an example, you might review the commentary regarding the new installer 
> that appeared in FC-18.  The same can be said for any number of new features
> such as systemctl instead of System V init scripts and firewalld as well
> as many others.

completly different topic

the installer is not connected to the network and ipv6 was laways enabled
by default, *but* until now i found no way to diable it on F19 with a F20 kernel

> That being said, you and Fernando might wish to explore how to submit a
> feature request to make enabling/disabling IPv6 easier and more intuitive.
> Such a feature would be more in keeping with Fedora's goal of being a
> technology incubator for what eventually becomes RHEL.

no - that is not a feature
see the bugreport above

there has only be a clear way to disable it which does not change
randomly - maybe you think i support the proposal disable it by
default which is *not* the case, i only *need* to disable it for
security reasons in *production* environments and as admin it has
to be *always* my job to deice if a device needs whatever
network protocol supported

> Simply turning off a new technology that some people find inconvenient 
> but that will move from optional to required in the foreseeable future is 
> contrary to what Fedora is all about.

i did not propose this with *any* word!


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