Am 29.06.2013 23:38, schrieb Bill Davidsen:
> Reindl Harald wrote:
>> "model name: QEMU Virtual CPU version 1.0.1"
>> what the hell - on VMware you have the same CPU as the host and only "VMware 
>> EVC"
>> is filtering CPU capabilities to provide relieable hot-migration between 
>> hosts
>> by make only the flags of the oldest CPU in the cluster visible to guests
> That's why we use KVM, migrations may not be within a cluster. Or be real 
> time "migrations" as you are thinking of
> it, but rather may involve being backed up until the next time there is a 
> support need for the machine. Different
> environment, different goals

the goal of virtualization in production is live-migartion and failover
this way you hve zero downtime at host-upgrades / reboots

>> that's why a VMwar eguest has around 95-98 % of the native performance 
>> because
>> there is only few binary translation and most instrcutions are passed 1:1
>>
> And as I remember if there was one old machine in the cluster you wouldn't 
> have the aes instruction either. 
> That's from docs, haven't tried VMware in a very long time

that is why i mentioned "VMware EVC"

you hardly need this because any running process inside a virtual machine will 
crash if
it is using CPU instructions which are not available on the CPU of the target 
host after
a migartion and with "VMware DRS" the cluster automatically starts 
live-migartions
if one host is overloaded while others are idle to spread the load of the guests
in a useful manner to the available hosts

virtualization is the base of my daily job and afer working some time
with this features you never ever setup a server on bare metal for
gain a few percent more peformance with no safety net or way too complex
HA setups inside the machines itself inseatd have them a layer deeper
than your production OS

well, i love opensource and on the guests Fedora/CentOS is running but
until now there is no opensource solution which can beat VMware on
certified hardware with proper support


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