OK, let me sum up my situation if I can without busting some confidentiality agreements.

We are a small Network Engineering company mostly we specialize in Enterprise Wireless in support of Inventory Control systems. Our outward facing network has been Windows Server in various generations!

We have had some serious security problems due to holes in Windows.

We also have a Teaching Lab were we teach new hires networking fundamentals. I have hidden the Lab behind a set of CentOS servers for several years and we have had no Problems. In the Lab I have 9 racks with various Routers (mostly Cisco) and several Enterprise Wireless Controllers (Motorola and Aruba mostly). I hide this whole operation behind one of my CentOS servers serving as the router and DHCP for the whole place!

My Boss has a Brother-In-Law (BIL) who had a terrible experience in his business (no way related to ours). The problem was the BIL not the OS but, convince the 2nd in command at our place of that! Yes, it is the Boss's wife!

Thus I am having to sell to their level of Knowledge and my well working Lab just does not penetrate her defense of her Brothers skills. It must have been the OS, not Her Brother!

I have taken some legitimate hits here! Had the situation been different! I was just trying to get a quick and dirty equivalence to use as a selling point.

I use an older version of Fedora at home because I like to leave work at work a LOT, OK I am lazy!

The full intent is to get to a RHEL shop and have it settle in place for about two years before I retire!

Mike D.

On 4/12/2013 4:11 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

Am 12.04.2013 13:05, schrieb Mike Dwiggins:
On 4/12/2013 3:49 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
to make it clear, if i would be your boss and you try to sell me
Fedora 16 i would fire you for two possible reasons reasons to
prevent future damage to the company

* you try to sell me a EOL system by knowing and ignoring this
* you do not know that it is EOL what shows that you are not qualified
At this I can only say that you don't know my Boss!  He moved into this field 
from a related field (Telcomm) and
knows just enough to be dangerous!

To him EOL would be a selling point because it would eliminate changes!
boah now you sound really really dumb

RHEL/CENTOS IS THE WAY TO GO BECAUSE IT IS DESIGEND FOR ENTERPRISE
AND NO API/ABU-CHANGES OVER TEN YEARS AND INSTALL A EOL-OS BECAUSE
IT DOES NO LONGER GET CHANGES IS COMPLETLY IDIOTIC

after the whole discussions there are only two options:

* you are only a troll
* you are far way from the knowledge a serious sys-admin needs AND 
learning-resistent





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