Am 07.07.2012 14:19, schrieb Frank Murphy:
> On 07/07/12 12:58, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
>>
>> I think we are bigger enough to say no and buy only hardware compatible.
>>
> Not my first choice.
> Been left with Old hardware as only option no thanks.

who said that?

there is a big enough market with customers which will
make the pressure to the manufacturers to produce
recent hardware where you can urn off secure boot

do you really think vendors like HP would be stoopid enough
to ignore their business customers? and yes the business
machines have much better quality and are not too expensive
or in many cases cheaper than the customer-crap most people
buy

http://www8.hp.com/de/de/products/desktops/product-detail.html?oid=5037949
a year ago with the SPECS below: 1600 €

it is the choice of the customer buy cheapest crap and pray
your OS will run fine or buy good hardware and that will not change

these days you can have this machine even with a HP branded
debian setup pre-installed
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* Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
* 16 GB RAM
* 2x4 TB Disk

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family 
DRAM Controller (rev 09)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Core 
Processor Family PCI Express Root Port (rev 09)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core 
Processor Family Integrated Graphics
Controller (rev 09)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network 
Connection (rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 
USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 
High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI 
Express Root Port 1 (rev b4)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI 
Express Root Port 5 (rev b4)
00:1c.6 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI 
Express Root Port 7 (rev b4)
00:1c.7 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI 
Express Root Port 8 (rev b4)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 
USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev a4)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Q67 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller 
(rev 04)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 
6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus 
Controller (rev 04)
01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection
02:00.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 
03)
03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5008 Wireless Network 
Adapter (rev 01


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