On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Misha Shnurapet <shnura...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > 03.12.2011, 13:48, "Sam Varshavchik" <mr...@courier-mta.com>: >> It's not that stuff has merely changed. It's that the stuff has changed, >> major parts of existing functionality were removed without having any >> functional replacements > > There is no arguing that the new GNOME 3 is a significant change. But what > you had with GNOME 2 was a result of about a decade of development. You want > the same user experience, the same functionality today while it takes months > to port all the stuff that you may not even know is to stay in GNOME. I > wonder, when the GNOME 2 came out, was it something largely accepted. Then this functionality should be ported before it is declared as release and pushed as a full replacement for current working environment. Or it could be pushed as experimental spin, while mainline still keeps with GNOME 2. > >> and every time someone points this out, they're >> told that they're too stupid to know what's good for them, and this is The >> Better Way. > > I think you're exaggerating. Noone from the GNOME project could have actually > told you that. I think he isn't. They actually did say it many times. Not in those exact words, but that is the general attitude of GNOME3 devs.
> >> Gnome 3 came without any kind of a sensors CPU widget. > > GNOME 3 is much more extensible than any other previous version of GNOME, it > is made to receive many kinds of extensions AND IT WILL. This looks more like marketing-speech. I haven't yet seen a single extension that is on par in terms of functionality with what I use in GNOME2 for years. > > 04.12.2011, 03:56, "Bill Davidsen" <david...@tmr.com>: >> And scrapping all your old computers because they don't have magic video >> cards for visual cruft is not in the cards. > > Old hardware receives the classic user experience in the form of fallback > mode. But if you want the exact GNOME 2 with no option to compromise, the > attitude you may receive may simply become your payback. Marketing speech again. In GNOME 3.0 fallback mode was a joke. In 3.2 it is really closer to GNOME 2, though. > > 04.12.2011, 00:26, "Scott Doty" <sc...@ponzo.net>: >> ...and I daresay any such _Linux_ distribution won't go very far, when >> its fearless leader has such a low opinion of _Linus_. > > I absolutely undrestand that you like Linus. But don't you forget that Linus > is a long time KDE user, and that's a different view on user interface and > usability. We love GNOME for being GNOME unless switch DE easily and stop > complaining. Knowing that Linus likes to troll both developers and users from > time to time, it's funny to see the adherents of ye olde GNOME coming up with > the quotes to support their point of view, especially when those are rather > positive. This is not a matter of like or dislike. I don't know him personally to like or dislike him, but he looks like a very sensible person and this is what makes his opinions valuable. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org