looking over your post, tend to agree with some things, not so much with others!
but regarding tech issues, the layman, or user that doesn't have seriously deep knowledge, that user has to depend on knowledge/input from other sources. and that user has to somehow figure out what/who to trust. and then, when confronted by an opposing view, what's the newer user to do. selinux is greatest since sliced bread.. view2 selinux, after all this time has major glitches, and causes more pain than it fixes.. so, to the user who's really trying to understand, what do they do!! thoughts welcome! On Sat, Nov 29, 2025, 3:59 AM Tim via users <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, 2025-11-29 at 00:07 -0500, bruce wrote: > > and thus we have "knowledge"!! > > > > unless you're really your "own" expert, how do you know to trust > > anyone on the 'net, or in person for the most part!! > > > > it's a tough task to handle! > > I think the problem is lack of critical thought. > > I'm always sceptical of what people tell me. I know some of them are > idiots. I seek ways to verify what I've heard, and disprove crap. > > Plenty of people are not sceptical. Or sceptical of expert knowledge > and stupid followers of charismatic speakers & conspiracy theories. > And grasp at the first thing *they* can believe, even when its > nonsense. Some people are just not capable of rational thought. > > And thus we have the citizens of the United ...... > > It doesn't help that many of us have had teachers who just ruled with > an iron rod of "I am right, and don't you dare question me" (even when > they're wrong). It's that kind of thing that undermined faith in > educational systems, discouraged actually doing any kind of research, > or critiquing things simply presented to you. > > (* Research does not mean listening to idiots.) > > And you have leaders with a similar attitude of they'll do what they > like and attack unlike minds on personal levels, rather than > intelligently deal with the issues. Leading to the ludicrous thing we > first heard of several years ago: "alternative facts" > > It's a bit like balanced reporting. It doesn't mean giving equal time > to both sides (the sensible and stupid), it means looking at the > notions and the questions, and usually reaching a conclusion rather > than leaving it completely open-ended. > > But going back to the original post... beware of solutions on forums. > I remember when Ubuntu came out, windows refugees flocked to it. You > could see their forums had the blind leading the blind with silly > solutions to things. Ubuntu forums were often referred to by search > engine results, even for unrelated distros. And I can see that getting > worse, these days, with many search results promoting forums above > distro documentation or individual websites. They seem to value massed > activity is a (much too) significant ranking. There's some vain hope > that mistakes get corrected on such things, but that's not always the > case, or might be five pages away from the bit that you read. > > -- > > uname -rsvp > Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 > x86_64 > (yes, this is the output from uname for this PC when I posted) > > Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. > I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >
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