On 10/9/25 2:15 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
*From:* Samuel Sieb <[email protected]>

*Sent:* Thursday, 9 October 2025 at 08:40 UTC+11

*To:* [email protected]

*Subject:* RE: quoting issues


On 10/8/25 1:53 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
On Mon, 2025-10-06 at 08:55 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
*From:* Patrick O'Callaghan<[email protected]>

*Sent:* Thursday, 2 October 2025 at 08:14 UTC+10

*To:*[email protected]

*Subject:* RE: After recent upgrade of firefox find it has as many as 50
lines with ps -ef | grep firefox??

[...]


Sorry Patrick, you are right I was actually replying to Joe's thread.
Just for interest what is the issue with the quoting mechanism, I can't see any issue with it. Just for reference I'm using the upstream version
of Thunderbird Daily.
All the stuff up to the [...] (above) is unnecessary. We know the
subject, the sending date and the To address from the headers, and we
know who you're replying to (me in this case) because it's stated below
after the date of the message being replied to.

The quoting style I'm using here, and which most people on the list
follow, is more succinct and less liable to confusion.
Thanks Patrick, the information at the top of the mail is inserted by Thunderbird itself which it has always done. As you have said with your emails it is obvious who is being replied to, as I see your name in the from data displayed in the inbox and you have your initials in the signature. The issue I have with a lot of the emails in the list is the from data shows as "Community support for Fedora Users" (as my mails do when I see them, which seems to have surfaced since moving to Gmail as my mail system) and there is no signature shown, so the only way to know who is actually being responded to is the info at the top which I tend to leave, but if it is annoying to people then I can remove it.

I don't know how you have Thunderbird configured, but the quoting is really weird.  You don't have the attribution line, so there's no indication who wrote what you're quoting.  And the quoted parts are just a different font with no quote markers.  Although the interesting thing about that is if I change the message body view from original html to simple html or plain text, then the quote markers do show up.
That interesting. I have Thunderbird configured to "Auto" for sending mails, which it says will send the mail as plain text if there is no formatting in the mail and send it as html and plain text if there is. When I reply to a mail I see the entire history of replies (if they are all still there) with the history indented various levels, but down the left hand side of all those replies there is a vertical line and those vertical lines are colour coded, hence I see all the quoting marks, but I also have Thunderbird configured to say I want mails in html format.

This is really weird. Now it has the big ugly info block at the top, but my text looks exactly the same as yours with no marking as a quote, not even a different font as before. But when I reply (as plain text), the quote markers are there.

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