On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 18:39, Sam Varshavchik <mr...@courier-mta.com> wrote:

> Robert Moskowitz writes:
>
> > On 1/11/22 07:15, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> >>
> >> Sadly, I expect that Fedora at some point will become exclusively Gnome
> and
> >> KDE, because only these stacks will support Wayland, in order to ditch
> X,
> >> and also target the same userbase. This won't happen anytime soon, but
> it
> >> will happen.
> >
> > Much of Fedora is user developed.  So this need not be the case.  It is
> > clear from what I read over in Xfce-land that better tools are needed.
> > Probably to even better migrate Gnome and KDE to Wayland.
> >
> > This is a bigger change than systemd and firewalld.  But we made those.
> We
> > will be on Wayland across the board, it seems, in 5 years or less.
>
> I'm going to reserve the right to pick at the claim that "Fedora is user
> developed", if this means that what goes into Fedora depends on what
> users
> want.


"user developed" means stuff users want badly enough to contribute
in the form of code, patches, bug reports, and documentation.

I do not recall a great clamoring for some of the things that you
> mention, and notable amount of opposition from the community. But that's
> a
> different topic. On the subject matter of time estimates I don't see this
> happening in 5 years, if at all. I'm going to go with 7-8 at the least.
> If
> XFCE does not support Wayland at that point, I guess that'll be the end
> of
> the XFCE spin.
>

Or earlier if some new Wayland-based project that improves on XFCE
(together
with English translation of the docs from the author's native language!)
gains
traction.

-- 
George N. White III
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