On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:45 PM, Rick Stevens <ri...@alldigital.com> wrote:

> Huh? They're just configuration-restricted PC-style laptops. There's
> nothing magical about the hardware anymore. There's no "IWM" chip in
> them. They're just laptops, which is why Linux will run on them.


Ahh they're able to run Linux mainly because they still abstract their
hardware with (U)EFI, ACPI and AHCI like other commodity hardware. But
I can't fully agree with the idea there's nothing magical about their
hardware - or rather I'd say unusual/proprietary/special. They are
baking in special things that we cannot use, including the finger
print reader, and T2 chip, and although I don't have anything new to
test this on someone told me their recent Macbook (last year or two)
they keyboard isn't recognized at all by Linux - which doesn't make
any sense to me.

Also, I know the latest Mac laptops released this summer now support
Secure Boot. However, they lack the Microsoft UEFI signing key, so
there aren't any Linux distros that can boot with Secure Boot out of
the box, since pretty much everyone depends on shim.efi or something
like it, being signed by the Microsoft UEFI signing key. And so far,
near as I can tell, there isn't end user key management for Apple
hardware.

So consider that I have a frownie face when it comes to future support
of any Linux on Apple hardware.

By the way folks: "Mac OS X" or "OS X" are the older but acceptable
terms, and the latest term is "macOS" If you're using something else,
you're kinda being like Dr Evil in this scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeS-Xb5u4-U





-- 
Chris Murphy
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