On Thu, 2018-06-07 at 00:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/06/18 23:47, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2018-06-06 at 14:44 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 12:29:02AM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2018-06-05 at 18:39 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > > > > And for those not so happy with tracer, there's also another tool:
> > > > > dnf.plugin.needs_restarting ("dnf needs-restarting")
> > > > 
> > > > AFAIK tracer is a rewritten and expanded version of needs-restarting.
> > > 
> > > Ed Greshko a little earler in this thread was writing about rpm
> > > database lockings that might be related to tracer. And you also
> > > weren't sure in your answer about the issue, IIUC. That was the main
> > > reason I mentioned "dnf needs-restarting" .. Just in case someone is
> > > trying to avoid usage of tracer at any cost ... :)
> > > 
> > > And no: I do not have specific knowledge about "dnf needs-restarting":
> > > just used it a few times ..
> > 
> > IIRC needs-restarting also locks the RPM database, but otherwise I'm
> > not really clear on the differences, except that apparently tracer
> > supports other package managers as well as dnf. It also seems to be
> > trying to offer more interactivity about what to restart and why, but I
> > don't generally bother with that.
> > 
> 
> To reiterate.  The only reason I don't use the tracer plugin is that it runs
> *automatically* and, depending on the number and type of updates can 
> interfere with
> the also automatic process of updating the nVidia kmod packages.  Certainly 
> the same
> problem could happen if you manually run needs-restarting right after an 
> upgrade that
> includes a kernel upgrade.  But, presumably, you'd know better.  :-)

Sure.

poc
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