Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> The front page for the month of March shows the most recent 10 messages
> with a lot of white space. Compare the Evolution (old-style) list
> archive:
> 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2017-March/thread.html
> 
> I know which is more useful to me. For one thing the old-style page
> shows all of March. I can also sort it by Date or by Author. To find
> (say) messages from around March 25 in HK, I have to click through an
> unknown number of intermediate pages and even then the dates of
> messages are not shown unless I open them. There's apparently no way to
> search for a specific date so I guess I have to do mental arithmetic to
> figure out how old the message is relative to the present.

FWIW, you can change the number of threads shown per page at
the bottom.  The default is 10, but you can choose up to
200, which gets you all the threads from March.

Better searching and date display would be nice
improvements.  Hopefully someone that wants them submits
patches to implement them.

>> If a message ever needs to be removed or otherwise edited in
>> the archive, it no longer invalidates links to all the
>> messages in the archive.
> 
> That may be so, in which case it's a plus, but more for the admins than
> for the users.

As a site admin, I might not even read the list, so I might
not care that I broke all the links to other messages which
users had inserted in their messages.  I very much belive
the stable message links in the archive is a user benefit.

It's main benefit to admins is that it allows them to remove
or alter a message without having to annoy all the users of
the list(s). :)

>> And it's now much easier to link to a thread and all the
>> messages in it instead of only to individual messages.
> 
> An example of a link to a thread:
> 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2017-March/msg00087.html

The way I see it, that's a link to a message.  Sure, it
shows one link to a follow-up message below it.  But there
are dozens of messages in that thread and they are not shown
in the pipermail archives.  If you follow one follow-up
message you can easily end up having to back up a few levels
to get back to replies from earlier in the thread.

I'm not trying to say that hyperkitty is infinitely better
than pipermail.  It's better, worse, and different depending
on the area and the preference of the user.  I do believe
that it's an overall improvement.  And for better or worse,
it's the archiver we've got. :)

-- 
Todd
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There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences.
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