On 09/05/2017 04:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 09/05/2017 01:48 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 09/05/2017 01:32 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>> Updates, at least through Gnome Software, are now done offline.  The 
>>> packages are
>>> all downloaded and prepared ahead of time and then the system is rebooted 
>>> into
>>> the update mode to install them.
>>
>> For me, at least, that's another reason I'm glad I don't use Gnome.  I 
>> update my
>> system every morning while I'm making breakfast, restart any programs that 
>> have
>> been updated and only reboot for a new kernel.  I see no reason why my system
>> shouldn't be available while I'm updating it, and one of the things I like 
>> about
>> Linux is that it's designed to be up and running 24/7, without constant 
>> reboots. 
>> YMMV, and if you use Gnome it certainly does, but that's how I look at it.
>
> I use Gnome and I still do my updates directly online with dnf.  It's your 
> choice
> how you do them. 

Allow me to add my $0.02 to this tangential discussion which offers no solution 
or
guidance to the OP.

I don't use GNOME on a regular basis.  But all of this is NBD (No Big Deal) in 
my
opinion.  The only thing Gnome is now doing is downloading updates in the 
background
as you work.  This way they will be ready to install when you decide to install
them.  Either by using dnf, a method I also prefer, or upon rebooting. 

Some folks, like our friend Bob G, have a usage limit and may have to pay extra 
when
data is downloaded during prime-time.  So, they may not want to have the updates
downloaded in the background.  That isn't a problem either as it is easy to 
disable with

gsettings set org.gnome.software download-updates false

Certainly none of this helps Matt.  But, based on what he said I don't think it 
would
have made any difference if the update happened during a reboot (unless he or
something like a power-failure interrupted it) or if done via dnf. 

Sorry Matt.  I really don't know what to tell you with certainty.  But, I 
suppose I
would start by telling folks exactly what you see when you type "ls".  Is there 
a
/boot directory, for example?  If so, what are the contents.  I've not run into 
any
difficulties with grub.  But then again, I don't do anything like dual booting 
to
Windows, or encrypted partitions.


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