On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 6:00 PM, stan <stanl-fedorau...@vfemail.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 13:48:00 -0400
> Matt Morgan <minxmertzm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The last time I signed off of Fedora 25, I opted to install updates.
>
> I don't understand this.  Updating the system requires that it be
> running, in order to download the packages, and install them.  Is this
> some kind of GUI functionality?  Did you power down the system during
> the update?  Have you successfully performed an update like this before?
>

I don't understand what it is either. I think it may have been new with
F25. I don't believe I had ever used it before.


>
> > Now it boots to a minimal grub menu, with no listing of kernel
> > choices. I'm sorry to say I haven't understood grub well for about 10
> > years. But I looked up some guides to using the menu (without
> > success).
>
> This sounds like the boot record for grub on the drive was damaged.  Or
> the location it is pointing to in no longer valid.
>
> >
> > If I type 'exit,' I am able to boot Windows, which is dual installed.
> > But I guess Grub can't find a kernel to boot, and I suppose it can't
> > find its own config?
> >
> > I tried things like
> >
> > boot (which said I needed to tell it a kernel to use first)
> > linux (which I thought was a way to load a kernel, but I just get
> > "error: command 'linux' not found")
> > ls (which can see the partitions, but can't tell what fs they are
> > using, for the most part).
> >
> > Seems like the ls is kind of the issue--with the exception of one ext2
> > partition (swap I guess) and one FAT (Windows), grub can't read the
> > filesystems on the disk, so I can't tell it what kernel to boot.
>
> Something has damaged the filesystem from the sounds of it.  I wonder
> if it is just a coincidence that this happened during an update.
>
> > Can anyone provide any guidance?
> >
> > FYI, this is an HP Envy laptop, if that helps.
>
> Is it possible the drive has gone bad?
>
> Is there a way for you to boot a rescue CD or a live CD (or USB)?  Then
> you could run diagnostics / investigate from a running system.
>

Yes, I set up a F26 boot usb and just installed F26 on top of the existing
root. It boots now; the grub options at boot are all messed up but I can
work on that.

Thanks for the good suggestions!
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