On 08/07/2017 04:55 PM, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
> I just want to add that there are already two submenus on the desktop; they 
> created
> at the  Fedora Firstinstallation:
>
>  1. Sunddyr (it groups :Adobe Flash Player. Configuration Editor, Firewall, 
> Print
>     setting, ...,.._
>  2. Utility  (it groups :Help, Logs, System monitor, ..., ...,...)
>

Would it be possible for you to take a screenshot of your desktop and post it
someplace for others (me) to see?

I've not seen a situation where an install resulted in a menu on the desktop.  
At
least not how I would describe it.

And, try not to put replies at the top of a message.  I makes it hard to follow 
the flow.


>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Angelo Moreschini <mrangelo.fed...@gmail.com
> <mailto:mrangelo.fed...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thank you for the your explanation..(I had some problems with the internet
>     connection ...)
>
>
>     I suppose that I have both packages installed on my computer:
>
>
>     _at the command line :*yum list gnome-classic-session, *I get_*_:_
>     *
>
>     Loaded plugins: langpacks
>
>     Repodata is over 2 weeks old. Install yum-cron? Or run: yum makecache fast
>
>     Installed Packages
>
>     gnome-classic-session.noarch 3.14.2-1.fc21 @koji-override-0/$releasever
>
>     Available Packages
>
>     gnome-classic-session.noarch 3.14.4-2.fc21 updates
>
>     Maybe this is a package installed by default at the first Fedora 
> installation?
>
>
>
>     GNOME-tweak-tools do not seem to be installed:
>
>     _at the command line :*yum list gnome-tweak-tools  *I get :_*
>     *
>
>     Loaded plugins: langpacks
>
>     Repodata is over 2 weeks old. Install yum-cron? Or run: yum makecache fast
>
>     Error: No matching Packages to list
>
>     But I have a launcher on the desk top that activates a window*(_titled
>     Tweaks)_* (??) that has various tabs : (Appearance, Dessktop, Extensions,
>     Fonts, Keyboard and Mouse, Power, Startup Applications, Top Bar, Windows,
>     Workspaces)
>
>     No one of these tabs is actually enabled.
>
>
>     Hoping that this could helps, _*I also installed xdg-utils.noarch*_ (I 
> don't
>     know what can bethe relation of this utilities with classic-session or 
> tweak-tools)
>
>     =-=-=-=-=-=-
>
>     I have to admit that I still am not well oriented in the framework of the
>     graphic presentation of  Gnome-desktop ; but it could be very helping for 
> me to
>     understand why 'the following file (/etc/xdg/menus/applications-that I 
> *created
>     with the command : xdg-desktop-menu install ….. , ….. ,….. , ….. , ....)*
>
>
>     [angelo_dev@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/xdg/menus/applications-
>
>     <!DOCTYPE Menu PUBLIC "-//freedesktop//DTD Menu 1.0//EN"
>     "http://www.freedesktop.org/
>     <http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/menu-1.0.dtd>">
>
>     <!-- Do not edit manually - generated and managed by xdg-desktop-menu -->
>
>     <Menu>
>
>     <Name>Applications</Name>
>
>     <Menu>
>
>     <Name>kde-office</Name>
>
>     <Directory>kde-office.
>
>     <Include>
>
>     <Filename>libreoffice-calc.
>
>     <Filename>libreoffice-calc.
>
>     <Filename>libreoffice-math.
>
>     <Filename>libreoffice-draw.
>
>     <Filename>libreoffice-base.
>
>     <Filename>libreoffice-impress.
>
>     </Include>
>
>     </Menu>
>
>     </Menu>
>
>     It does not have any effect on the desktop.
>
>     And also to know if I can make some changes because an icon (the submenu -
>     office) can appears on the desktop for grouping the other icons ...
>
>     Still thank you
>
>     Angelo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Samuel Sieb <sam...@sieb.net
>     <mailto:sam...@sieb.net>> wrote:
>
>         On 08/06/2017 05:08 AM, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
>
>             Hi Samuel,
>
>             I have difficulty understanding ,,, So I tried to interpret 
> carefully
>             your words :
>             "In linux you can manage the view of the desktop in two different 
> ways:
>             classic or by tweak tools"
>
>                I assigned this meaning to them:
>
>             _You can manage your “desktop view” using commands from the 
> terminal or
>             using the graphic environment that comes with tweak tools._
>
>
>         Sorry, I'll try again.
>
>         There is a package you can install called "gnome-classic-session" 
> which
>         gives you a desktop you can choose from the login menu that is called
>         "Gnome Classic".  This desktop looks similar to the Gnome 2 style 
> with a
>         task bar at the bottom and an Applications menu at the top left.
>
>         The other way to get that Applications menu is to run the program 
> called
>         "gnome-tweak-tool", you'll have to install it.  In the extensions 
> section
>         of that program, there is an extension to show the Applications menu 
> if you
>         turn it on.
>
>             Then you still say :
>
>             “If that menu doesn't have the entries that you expect, then there
>             might be an issue.”
>
>             This second phrase is not really clear for me ...
>
>             _could you better explain what you mean by the “term” menu ? _
>
>
>         If you have followed one of the methods I described above, then at the
>         top-left of the screen, there will be the word "Applications" (or
>         corresponding translation in your language).  If you click on that, a 
> list
>         of program categories will be shown (a menu).
>
>             Are you talking about the menu that I am trying to realize by 
> using the
>             command <xdg-desktop-menu instal> ?? But this (menu) doesn't 
> exists yet ….
>
>
>         Probably, although that's a guess, because you still have explained 
> where
>         you are expecting to see this menu you are trying to create.
>
>             and also more important too :*_what you mean with the word 
> “entries”_*
>
>
>         I mean the menu and items that you are trying to create with 
> xdg-desktop-menu.
>
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