I just want to add that there are already two submenus on the desktop; they
created at the  Fedora First installation:

   1. Sunddyr (it groups :Adobe Flash Player. Configuration Editor,
   Firewall, Print setting, ...,.._
   2. Utility  (it groups :Help, Logs, System monitor, ..., ...,...)


On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Angelo Moreschini <
mrangelo.fed...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for the your explanation.. (I had some problems with the
> internet connection ...)
>
>
> I suppose that I have both packages installed on my computer:
>
> *at the command line : yum list gnome-classic-session, I get*
> * :*
>
> Loaded plugins: langpacks
>
> Repodata is over 2 weeks old. Install yum-cron? Or run: yum makecache fast
>
> Installed Packages
>
> gnome-classic-session.noarch 3.14.2-1.fc21 @koji-override-0/$releasever
>
> Available Packages
>
> gnome-classic-session.noarch 3.14.4-2.fc21 updates
>
> Maybe this is a package installed by default at the first Fedora
> installation?
>
>
> GNOME-tweak-tools do not seem to be installed:
>
> *at the command line : yum list gnome-tweak-tools  I get :*
>
> Loaded plugins: langpacks
>
> Repodata is over 2 weeks old. Install yum-cron? Or run: yum makecache fast
>
> Error: No matching Packages to list
>
> But I have a launcher on the desk top that activates a window* (titled
> Tweaks)* (??) that has various tabs : (Appearance, Dessktop, Extensions,
> Fonts, Keyboard and Mouse, Power, Startup Applications, Top Bar, Windows,
> Workspaces)
>
> No one of these tabs is actually enabled.
>
> Hoping that this could helps, *I also installed xdg-utils.noarch* (I
> don't know what can bethe relation of this utilities with classic-session
> or tweak-tools)
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-
>
> I have to admit that I still am not well oriented in the framework of the
> graphic presentation of  Gnome-desktop ; but it could be very helping for
> me to understand why 'the following file (/etc/xdg/menus/applications-
> that I *created with the command : xdg-desktop-menu install ….. , …..
> ,….. , ….. , ....)*
>
>
> [angelo_dev@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/xdg/menus/applications-
>
> <!DOCTYPE Menu PUBLIC "-//freedesktop//DTD Menu 1.0//EN" "
> http://www.freedesktop.org/
> <http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/menu-1.0.dtd>">
>
> <!-- Do not edit manually - generated and managed by xdg-desktop-menu -->
>
> <Menu>
>
> <Name>Applications</Name>
>
> <Menu>
>
> <Name>kde-office</Name>
>
> <Directory>kde-office.
>
> <Include>
>
> <Filename>libreoffice-calc.
>
> <Filename>libreoffice-calc.
>
> <Filename>libreoffice-math.
>
> <Filename>libreoffice-draw.
>
> <Filename>libreoffice-base.
>
> <Filename>libreoffice-impress.
>
> </Include>
>
> </Menu>
>
> </Menu>
>
> It does not have any effect on the desktop.
>
> And also to know if I can make some changes because an icon (the submenu -
> office) can appears on the desktop for grouping the other icons ...
>
> Still thank you
>
> Angelo
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Samuel Sieb <sam...@sieb.net> wrote:
>
>> On 08/06/2017 05:08 AM, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Samuel,
>>>
>>> I have difficulty understanding ,,, So I tried to interpret carefully
>>> your words :
>>> "In linux you can manage the view of the desktop in two different ways:
>>> classic or by tweak tools"
>>>
>>>    I assigned this meaning to them:
>>>
>>> _You can manage your “desktop view” using commands from the terminal or
>>> using the graphic environment that comes with tweak tools._
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, I'll try again.
>>
>> There is a package you can install called "gnome-classic-session" which
>> gives you a desktop you can choose from the login menu that is called
>> "Gnome Classic".  This desktop looks similar to the Gnome 2 style with a
>> task bar at the bottom and an Applications menu at the top left.
>>
>> The other way to get that Applications menu is to run the program called
>> "gnome-tweak-tool", you'll have to install it.  In the extensions section
>> of that program, there is an extension to show the Applications menu if you
>> turn it on.
>>
>> Then you still say :
>>>
>>> “If that menu doesn't have the entries that you expect, then there might
>>> be an issue.”
>>>
>>> This second phrase is not really clear for me ...
>>>
>>> _could you better explain what you mean by the “term” menu ? _
>>>
>>
>> If you have followed one of the methods I described above, then at the
>> top-left of the screen, there will be the word "Applications" (or
>> corresponding translation in your language).  If you click on that, a list
>> of program categories will be shown (a menu).
>>
>> Are you talking about the menu that I am trying to realize by using the
>>> command <xdg-desktop-menu instal> ?? But this (menu) doesn't exists yet ….
>>>
>>
>> Probably, although that's a guess, because you still have explained where
>> you are expecting to see this menu you are trying to create.
>>
>> and also more important too :*_what you mean with the word “entries”_*
>>>
>>
>> I mean the menu and items that you are trying to create with
>> xdg-desktop-menu.
>>
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