On 08/13/15 19:15, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Maybe if you
> had just given the straight dope instead of insisting it was easy to
> find we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I suppose so.  Yet one hopes that at least one person could learn a few more 
commands/methods of doing research from this thread.  You know what they say 
about giving fish v.s. teaching fishing.  I guess all some people want are the 
fish.

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