On 08/13/15 18:17, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 17:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 08/13/15 16:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> throws up a whole bunch of of hits which don't include the word
>>> EnvironmentFile.
>> Oh, I think I parsed your statement wrong.  I should have read it as 
>> "more than EnvironmentFile contains that syntax such as 
>> ExecStartPre". 
>>
>> But that then results in a different question which can be answer in 
>> the same manner which results in finding the same man page and the 
>> following output....
>>
>>        ExecStartPre=, ExecStartPost=
>>            Additional commands that are executed before or after the 
>> command in
>>            ExecStart=, respectively. Syntax is the same as for 
>> ExecStart=,
>>            except that multiple command lines are allowed and the 
>> commands are
>>            executed one after the other, serially.
>>
>>            If any of those commands (not prefixed with "-") fail, the 
>> rest are
>>            not executed and the unit is considered failed.
> You can argue that if you like, but my point is that on seeing the
> examples the natural conclusion is that here is some new syntax I don't
> know about, so let me look in the systemd docs for some explanation.
> The fact that it's only documented in specific examples makes it much
> harder to find. I don't expect the syntax of environment variable
> assignments to be explained every time one of them shows up in a man
> page.

I'm not arguing, I'm making statements.  And, BTW, as I said I think the usage 
of "-" is context dependent.  Have a look at "man systemd.slice".  So it seems 
the question "what is the general meaning of -" may be an invalid question.

The only point I'm making is, the answer to the original question seems easy to 
come by if one just makes the effort.  Nothing more, nothing less.


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