Does Kafka support hidden topics ? (Since all the topics infos are stored
in ZK, this probably not the case )

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Matthias J. Sax <matth...@confluent.io>
wrote:

> Hi Tommy,
>
> yes, you do understand Kafka Streams correctly. And yes, for shuffling,
> na internal topic will be created under the hood. It should be named
> "<application-id>-something-repartition". I am not sure, why it is not
> listed via bin/kafka-topics.sh
>
> The internal topic "<application-id>-counts-changelog" you see is
> created to back the state of countByKey() operator.
>
> See
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/
> Kafka+Streams%3A+Internal+Data+Management
>
> and
>
> http://www.confluent.io/blog/data-reprocessing-with-kafka-
> streams-resetting-a-streams-application
>
>
> -Matthias
>
>
> On 08/30/2016 06:55 AM, Tommy Q wrote:
> > Michael, Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Take the word count example, I am trying to walk through the code based
> on
> > your explanation:
> >
> >     val textLines: KStream[String, String] =
> builder.stream("input-topic")
> >     val wordCounts: KStream[String, JLong] = textLines
> >       .flatMapValues(_.toLowerCase.split("\\W+").toIterable.asJava)
> >       .map((key: String, word: String) => new KeyValue(word, word))
> >       .countByKey("counts")
> >       .toStream
> >
> >     wordCounts.to(stringSerde, longSerde, "wc-out")
> >
> > Suppose the input-topic has two partitions and each partition has a
> string
> > record produced into:
> >
> > input-topic_0 : "a b"
> >> input-topic_1 : "a b c"
> >
> >
> > Suppose we started two instance of the stream topology ( task_0 and
> > task_1). So after flatMapValues & map executed, they should have the
> > following task state:
> >
> > task_0 :  [ (a, "a"), (b, "b") ]
> >> task_1 :  [ (a, "a"), (b: "b"),  (c: "c") ]
> >
> >
> > Before the execution of  countByKey, the kafka-stream framework should
> > insert a invisible shuffle phase internally:
> >
> > shuffled across the network :
> >>
> >
> >
> >> _internal_topic_shuffle_0 :  [ (a, "a"), (a, "a") ]
> >> _internal_topic_shuffle_1 :  [ (b, "b"), (b: "b"),  (c: "c") ]
> >
> >
> > countByKey (reduce) :
> >
> > task_0 (counts-changelog_0) :  [ (a, 2) ]
> >
> > task_1 (counts-changelog_1):   [ (b, 2), (c, 1) ]
> >
> >
> > And after the execution of `wordCounts.to(stringSerde, longSerde,
> > "wc-out")`, we get the word count output in wc-out topic:
> >
> > task_0 (wc-out_0) :  [ (a, 2) ]
> >
> > task_1 (wc-out_1):   [ (b, 2), (c, 1) ]
> >
> >
> >
> > According the steps list above, do I understand the internals of kstream
> > word count correctly ?
> > Another question is does the shuffle across the network work by creating
> > intermediate topics ? If so, why can't I find the intermediate topics
> using
> > `bin/kafka-topics.sh --list --zookeeper localhost:2181` ?  I can only see
> > the counts-changelog got created by the kstream framework.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:25 AM, Michael Noll <mich...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
> >
> >> In Kafka Streams, data is partitioned according to the keys of the
> >> key-value records, and operations such as countByKey operate on these
> >> stream partitions.  When reading data from Kafka, these stream
> partitions
> >> map to the partitions of the Kafka input topic(s), but these may change
> >> once you add processing operations.
> >>
> >> To your question:  The first step, if the data isn't already keyed as
> >> needed, is to select the key you want to count by, which results in 1+
> >> output stream partitions.  Here, data may get shuffled across the
> network
> >> (but if won't if there's no need to, e.g. when the data is already
> keyed as
> >> needed).  Then the count operation is performed for each stream
> partition,
> >> which is similar to the sort-and-reduce phase in Hadoop.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Tommy <deeplam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> For "word count" example in Hadoop, there are shuffle-sort-and-reduce
> >>> phases that handles outputs from different mappers, how does it work in
> >>> KStream ?
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>

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