We don't expect to lose data in that case. So, this sounds like a bug. Do
you see any other error/warn in broker log around the time the data is lost?

Thanks,

Jun


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Oliver Dain <od...@3cinteractive.com>wrote:

> Hi Neha,
>
> Thanks for the reply. I do not see the ³No broker in ISR² message. If my
> original diagnosis was correct (that there were at least 2 replicas alive
> for the topic at all times) then I believe this is expected, right? I
> gather this makes it more likely that we¹ve hit KAFKA-1193?? If so, is
> there any workaround and/or an ETA for a fix?
>
> Thanks,
> Oliver
>
>
>
>
> On 3/27/14, 5:18 AM, "Neha Narkhede" <neha.narkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >It is possible that you are hitting KAFKA-1193, but I'm not sure. Do you
> >see the following log line when you observe data loss -
> >
> >"No broker in ISR is alive for ... There's potential data loss."
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Neha
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Oliver Dain
> ><od...@3cinteractive.com>wrote:
> >
> >> I just saw https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-1193 which seems
> >> like it could be the cause of this. Does that sound right? Is there a
> >>patch
> >> we can test? Any date/time when this is expected to be fixed?
> >>
> >> From: New User <od...@3cinteractive.com<mailto:od...@3cinteractive.com
> >>
> >> Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 at 11:59 AM
> >> To: "users@kafka.apache.org<mailto:users@kafka.apache.org>" <
> >> users@kafka.apache.org<mailto:users@kafka.apache.org>>
> >> Subject: data loss on replicated topic
> >>
> >> My company currently testing Kafka for throughput and fault tolerance.
> >> We've set up a cluster of 5 Kafka brokers and are publishing to a topic
> >> with replication factor 3 and 100 partitions. We are publishing with
> >> request.required.acks == -1 (e.g. All ISR replicas must ACK before the
> >> message is considered sent). If a publication fails, we retry it
> >> indefinitely until it succeeds. We ran a test over a weekend in which we
> >> published messages as fast as we could (from a single publisher). Each
> >> message has a unique ID so we can ensure that all messages are saved by
> >> Kafka at least once at the end of the test. We have a simple script, run
> >> via cron, that kills one broker (chosen at random) once every other hour
> >> (killed via "kill -9"). The broker is then revived 16 minutes after it
> >>was
> >> killed. At the end of the weekend we ran a script to pull all data from
> >>all
> >> partitions and then verify that all messages were persisted by Kafka.
> >>For
> >> the most part, the results are very good. We can sustain about 3k
> >> message/second with almost no data loss.
> >>
> >> Of the roughly 460 million records we produced over 48 hours we lost
> >>only
> >> 7 records. But, I don't think we should have lost any record. All of the
> >> lost records were produced at almost exactly the time one of the brokers
> >> was killed (down to the second which is the granularity of our logs).
> >>Note
> >> that we're producing around 3k messages/second and we killed brokers
> >>many
> >> times over the 48 hour period. Only twice did we see data loss: once we
> >> lost 4 records and once we lost 3. I have checked the Kafka logs and
> >>there
> >> are some expected error messages from the surviving brokers that look
> >>like:
> >>
> >>
> >> [2014-03-19 02:21:12,088] ERROR [ReplicaFetcherThread-1-5], Error in
> >>fetch
> >> Name: FetchRequest; Version: 0; CorrelationId: 3491511; ClientId:
> >> ReplicaFetcherThread-1-5; ReplicaId: 1; MaxWait: 500 ms; MinBytes: 1
> >>bytes;
> >> RequestInfo: [load_test,20] ->
> >> PartitionFetchInfo(521319,1048576),[load_test,74] ->
> >> PartitionFetchInfo(559017,1048576),[load_test,14] ->
> >> PartitionFetchInfo(420539,1048576),[load_test,0] ->
> >> PartitionFetchInfo(776869,1048576),[load_test,34] ->
> >> PartitionFetchInfo(446435,1048576),[load_test,94] ->
> >> PartitionFetchInfo(849943,1048576),[load_test,40] ->
> >> PartitionFetchInfo(241876,1048576),[load_test,80] ->
> >> PartitionFetchInfo(508778,1048576),[load_test,60] ->
> >> PartitionFetchInfo(81314,1048576),[load_test,54] ->
> >> PartitionFetchInfo(165798,1048576) (kafka.server.ReplicaFetcherThread)
> >>
> >> java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused
> >>
> >>         at sun.nio.ch.Net.connect0(Native Method)
> >>
> >>         at sun.nio.ch.Net.connect(Net.java:465)
> >>
> >>         at sun.nio.ch.Net.connect(Net.java:457)
> >>
> >>         at
> >>sun.nio.ch.SocketChannelImpl.connect(SocketChannelImpl.java:670)
> >>
> >>         at
> >>kafka.network.BlockingChannel.connect(BlockingChannel.scala:57)
> >>
> >>         at
> >>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer.connect(SimpleConsumer.scala:44)
> >>
> >>         at
> >>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer.reconnect(SimpleConsumer.scala:57)
> >>
> >>         at
> >> kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer.liftedTree1$1(SimpleConsumer.scala:79)
> >>
> >>         at
> >>
> >>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer.kafka$consumer$SimpleConsumer$$sendRequest(
> >>SimpleConsumer.scala:71)
> >>
> >>         at
> >>
> >>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer$$anonfun$fetch$1$$anonfun$apply$mcV$sp$1.ap
> >>ply$mcV$sp(SimpleConsumer.scala:109)
> >>
> >>         at
> >>
> >>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer$$anonfun$fetch$1$$anonfun$apply$mcV$sp$1.ap
> >>ply(SimpleConsumer.scala:109)
> >>
> >>         at
> >>
> >>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer$$anonfun$fetch$1$$anonfun$apply$mcV$sp$1.ap
> >>ply(SimpleConsumer.scala:109)
> >>
> >>         at kafka.metrics.KafkaTimer.time(KafkaTimer.scala:33)
> >>
> >>         at
> >>
> >>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer$$anonfun$fetch$1.apply$mcV$sp(SimpleConsume
> >>r.scala:108)
> >>
> >>         at
> >>
> >>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer$$anonfun$fetch$1.apply(SimpleConsumer.scala
> >>:108)
> >>
> >>         at
> >>
> >>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer$$anonfun$fetch$1.apply(SimpleConsumer.scala
> >>:108)
> >>
> >>         at kafka.metrics.KafkaTimer.time(KafkaTimer.scala:33)
> >>
> >>         at kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer.fetch(SimpleConsumer.scala:107)
> >>
> >>         at
> >>
> >>kafka.server.AbstractFetcherThread.processFetchRequest(AbstractFetcherThr
> >>ead.scala:96)
> >>
> >>         at
> >>
> >>kafka.server.AbstractFetcherThread.doWork(AbstractFetcherThread.scala:88)
> >>
> >>         at
> >>kafka.utils.ShutdownableThread.run(ShutdownableThread.scala:51)
> >>
> >> I have verified that all the partitions mentioned in these messages
> >>(e.g.
> >> The above mentions partitions 0, 34, 94, etc.) had the newly killed
> >>node as
> >> the leader. I believe that means that the other 4 brokers were alive and
> >> running without issues. There are no other log messages that indicate
> >>any
> >> other broker communication issues.
> >>
> >> As I understand it, this scenario shouldn't cause any data loss since at
> >> least 4/5 of the brokers were alive and healthy at all times. Is there
> >>any
> >> way to explain the data loss? Perhaps a known bug in 0.8.1?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Oliver
> >>
> >>
>
>

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