Hi Neha,

Thanks for the reply. I do not see the ³No broker in ISR² message. If my
original diagnosis was correct (that there were at least 2 replicas alive
for the topic at all times) then I believe this is expected, right? I
gather this makes it more likely that we¹ve hit KAFKA-1193?? If so, is
there any workaround and/or an ETA for a fix?

Thanks,
Oliver




On 3/27/14, 5:18 AM, "Neha Narkhede" <neha.narkh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>It is possible that you are hitting KAFKA-1193, but I'm not sure. Do you
>see the following log line when you observe data loss -
>
>"No broker in ISR is alive for ... There's potential data loss."
>
>Thanks,
>Neha
>
>
>On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Oliver Dain
><od...@3cinteractive.com>wrote:
>
>> I just saw https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-1193 which seems
>> like it could be the cause of this. Does that sound right? Is there a
>>patch
>> we can test? Any date/time when this is expected to be fixed?
>>
>> From: New User <od...@3cinteractive.com<mailto:od...@3cinteractive.com>>
>> Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 at 11:59 AM
>> To: "users@kafka.apache.org<mailto:users@kafka.apache.org>" <
>> users@kafka.apache.org<mailto:users@kafka.apache.org>>
>> Subject: data loss on replicated topic
>>
>> My company currently testing Kafka for throughput and fault tolerance.
>> We've set up a cluster of 5 Kafka brokers and are publishing to a topic
>> with replication factor 3 and 100 partitions. We are publishing with
>> request.required.acks == -1 (e.g. All ISR replicas must ACK before the
>> message is considered sent). If a publication fails, we retry it
>> indefinitely until it succeeds. We ran a test over a weekend in which we
>> published messages as fast as we could (from a single publisher). Each
>> message has a unique ID so we can ensure that all messages are saved by
>> Kafka at least once at the end of the test. We have a simple script, run
>> via cron, that kills one broker (chosen at random) once every other hour
>> (killed via "kill -9"). The broker is then revived 16 minutes after it
>>was
>> killed. At the end of the weekend we ran a script to pull all data from
>>all
>> partitions and then verify that all messages were persisted by Kafka.
>>For
>> the most part, the results are very good. We can sustain about 3k
>> message/second with almost no data loss.
>>
>> Of the roughly 460 million records we produced over 48 hours we lost
>>only
>> 7 records. But, I don't think we should have lost any record. All of the
>> lost records were produced at almost exactly the time one of the brokers
>> was killed (down to the second which is the granularity of our logs).
>>Note
>> that we're producing around 3k messages/second and we killed brokers
>>many
>> times over the 48 hour period. Only twice did we see data loss: once we
>> lost 4 records and once we lost 3. I have checked the Kafka logs and
>>there
>> are some expected error messages from the surviving brokers that look
>>like:
>>
>>
>> [2014-03-19 02:21:12,088] ERROR [ReplicaFetcherThread-1-5], Error in
>>fetch
>> Name: FetchRequest; Version: 0; CorrelationId: 3491511; ClientId:
>> ReplicaFetcherThread-1-5; ReplicaId: 1; MaxWait: 500 ms; MinBytes: 1
>>bytes;
>> RequestInfo: [load_test,20] ->
>> PartitionFetchInfo(521319,1048576),[load_test,74] ->
>> PartitionFetchInfo(559017,1048576),[load_test,14] ->
>> PartitionFetchInfo(420539,1048576),[load_test,0] ->
>> PartitionFetchInfo(776869,1048576),[load_test,34] ->
>> PartitionFetchInfo(446435,1048576),[load_test,94] ->
>> PartitionFetchInfo(849943,1048576),[load_test,40] ->
>> PartitionFetchInfo(241876,1048576),[load_test,80] ->
>> PartitionFetchInfo(508778,1048576),[load_test,60] ->
>> PartitionFetchInfo(81314,1048576),[load_test,54] ->
>> PartitionFetchInfo(165798,1048576) (kafka.server.ReplicaFetcherThread)
>>
>> java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused
>>
>>         at sun.nio.ch.Net.connect0(Native Method)
>>
>>         at sun.nio.ch.Net.connect(Net.java:465)
>>
>>         at sun.nio.ch.Net.connect(Net.java:457)
>>
>>         at 
>>sun.nio.ch.SocketChannelImpl.connect(SocketChannelImpl.java:670)
>>
>>         at 
>>kafka.network.BlockingChannel.connect(BlockingChannel.scala:57)
>>
>>         at 
>>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer.connect(SimpleConsumer.scala:44)
>>
>>         at 
>>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer.reconnect(SimpleConsumer.scala:57)
>>
>>         at
>> kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer.liftedTree1$1(SimpleConsumer.scala:79)
>>
>>         at
>> 
>>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer.kafka$consumer$SimpleConsumer$$sendRequest(
>>SimpleConsumer.scala:71)
>>
>>         at
>> 
>>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer$$anonfun$fetch$1$$anonfun$apply$mcV$sp$1.ap
>>ply$mcV$sp(SimpleConsumer.scala:109)
>>
>>         at
>> 
>>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer$$anonfun$fetch$1$$anonfun$apply$mcV$sp$1.ap
>>ply(SimpleConsumer.scala:109)
>>
>>         at
>> 
>>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer$$anonfun$fetch$1$$anonfun$apply$mcV$sp$1.ap
>>ply(SimpleConsumer.scala:109)
>>
>>         at kafka.metrics.KafkaTimer.time(KafkaTimer.scala:33)
>>
>>         at
>> 
>>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer$$anonfun$fetch$1.apply$mcV$sp(SimpleConsume
>>r.scala:108)
>>
>>         at
>> 
>>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer$$anonfun$fetch$1.apply(SimpleConsumer.scala
>>:108)
>>
>>         at
>> 
>>kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer$$anonfun$fetch$1.apply(SimpleConsumer.scala
>>:108)
>>
>>         at kafka.metrics.KafkaTimer.time(KafkaTimer.scala:33)
>>
>>         at kafka.consumer.SimpleConsumer.fetch(SimpleConsumer.scala:107)
>>
>>         at
>> 
>>kafka.server.AbstractFetcherThread.processFetchRequest(AbstractFetcherThr
>>ead.scala:96)
>>
>>         at
>> 
>>kafka.server.AbstractFetcherThread.doWork(AbstractFetcherThread.scala:88)
>>
>>         at 
>>kafka.utils.ShutdownableThread.run(ShutdownableThread.scala:51)
>>
>> I have verified that all the partitions mentioned in these messages
>>(e.g.
>> The above mentions partitions 0, 34, 94, etc.) had the newly killed
>>node as
>> the leader. I believe that means that the other 4 brokers were alive and
>> running without issues. There are no other log messages that indicate
>>any
>> other broker communication issues.
>>
>> As I understand it, this scenario shouldn't cause any data loss since at
>> least 4/5 of the brokers were alive and healthy at all times. Is there
>>any
>> way to explain the data loss? Perhaps a known bug in 0.8.1?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Oliver
>>
>>

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