I've seen this bottle neck regardless of using compression or not, bpth
situations give me poor performance on sending to kafka via the scala
producer api.
On 1 Jan 2014 16:42, "Chris Hogue" <csho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> When writing that blog we were using Kafka 0.7 as well. Understanding that
> it probably wasn't the primary design goal, the separate send threads per
> broker that offered a separation of compression were a convenient
> side-effect of that design.
>
> We've since built new systems on 0.8 that have concentrated high throughput
> on a small number of producers and had this discovery early on as well.
>
> Instead we've taken responsibility for the compression before the producer
> and done that on separate threads as appropriate. While helpful for
> compression on the producer application the main reason for this is to
> prevent the broker from uncompressing and re-compressing each message as it
> assigns offsets. There's a significant throughput advantage in doing this.
>
> Truthfully since switching to snappy the compression throughput on the
> producer is much less of a concern in the overall context of the
> application.
>
> There was some discussion of these issues in the 'Client Improvement
> Discussion' thread a while ago where Jay provided some insight and
> discussion on future directions.
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 5:42 AM, yosi botzer <yosi.bot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This is very interesting, this is what I see as well. I wish someone
> could
> > explain why it is not as explained here:
> > http://engineering.gnip.com/kafka-async-producer/
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Gerrit Jansen van Vuuren <
> > gerrit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know the code enough to comment on that (maybe someone else on
> > the
> > > user list can do that), but from what I've seen doing some heavy
> > profiling
> > > I only see one thread per producer instance, it doesn't matter how many
> > > brokers or topics you have the number of threads is always 1 per
> > producer.
> > > If you create 2 producers 2 threads and so on.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 1:27 PM, yosi botzer <yosi.bot...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > But shouldn't I see a separate thread per broker (I am using the
> async
> > > > mode)?  Why do I get a better performance sending a message that has
> > > fewer
> > > > partitions?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Gerrit Jansen van Vuuren <
> > > > gerrit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The producer is heavily synchronized (i.e. all the code in the send
> > > > method
> > > > > is encapsulated in one huge synchronized block).
> > > > > Try creating multiple producers and round robin send over them.
> > > > >
> > > > > e.g.
> > > > >
> > > > > p = producers[ n++ % producers.length ]
> > > > >
> > > > > p.send msg
> > > > > This will give you one thread per producer instance.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm working on an async multi threaded producer for kafka, but its
> > > > nothing
> > > > > near complete yet.
> > > > > https://github.com/gerritjvv/kafka-fast
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >  Gerrit
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 1:17 PM, yosi botzer <yosi.bot...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am using kafka 0.8. I have 3 machines each running kafka
> broker.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am using async mode of my Producer. I expected to see 3
> different
> > > > > threads
> > > > > > with names starting with ProducerSendThread- (according to this
> > > > article:
> > > > > > http://engineering.gnip.com/kafka-async-producer/)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However I can see only one thread with the name
> > *ProducerSendThread-*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is my producer configuration:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > server=1
> > > > > > topic=dat7
> > > > > > metadata.broker.list=
> > > > > > ec2-54-245-111-112.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com:9092
> > > > > > ,ec2-54-245-111-69.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com:9092,
> > > > > > ec2-54-218-183-14.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com:9092
> > > > > > serializer.class=kafka.serializer.DefaultEncoder
> > > > > > request.required.acks=1
> > > > > > compression.codec=snappy
> > > > > > producer.type=async
> > > > > > queue.buffering.max.ms=2000
> > > > > > queue.buffering.max.messages=1000
> > > > > > batch.num.messages=500
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *What am I missing here?*
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW, I have also experienced very strange behavior regrading my
> > > > producer
> > > > > > performance (which may or may not be related to the issue above).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I have defined a topic with 1 partition I got much better
> > > > throughput
> > > > > > comparing to a topic with 3 partitions. A producer sending
> messages
> > > to
> > > > a
> > > > > > topic with 3 partitions had much better throughput comparing to a
> > > topic
> > > > > > with 12 partitions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would expect to have best performance for the topic with 12
> > > > partitions
> > > > > > since I have 3 machines running a broker each of with 4 disks
> (the
> > > > broker
> > > > > > is configured to use all 4 disks)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Is there any logical explanation for this behavior?*
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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