Um - well two points:
1. None of the paid developers are paid by TDF - we have 0 paid
developers on staff.
2. Most commits are still done by volunteers and many are done by paid
developers on their free time (ie. when they are volunteering).



On 10/02/2014 12:53 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 10/2/2014 12:04 PM, jonathon <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The devs have no idea how people use the product, and thus only test
>> a minuscle subset of available features, functions, and
>> capabilities.
> Relevant and true to an extent and in some cases, certainly, but I'm
> sorry, cut/copy/paste functionality with respect to input fields is bare
> minimum basic *fundamental* behavior, and 'knowing people will want to
> use the fields in such a manner' - well, if a developer truly has such a
> limited imagination, then I highly doubt they would make a competent
> developer.
>
> Bigger picture question - which is more reasonable:
>
> a) expecting an end user to test every, single feature among the
> thousands of features provided by Libreoffice, before every single
> update, or on every single daily build?
>
> or
>
> b) expecting the actual developers who are doing the coding to do at
> least some bare, minimum testing of the code that they, themselves are
> writing, with respect to the feature(s) said code is affecting?
>
> Asked another way with respect to this specific issue:
>
> Which is more reasonable:
>
> a) expecting an end user to find and discover that one very specific
> feature that they use among hundreds (or more) of other features has a bug?
>
> or
>
> b) expecting the developer doing the actual coding for a very specific
> feature/function, to find a bug with respect to the most basic and
> fundamental aspect of said feature?
>
> The developer *knows* what they are working on, and *knows* what the
> basic functionality should be.
>
> I'm being accused of 'refusing to help' by way of QA, testing, etc.
>
> Tell me - how are *users* supposed to know that a major feature they
> rely on on a daily basis is being replaced? In my opinion, this new
> feature (and others like it - especially when it is *replacing* an
> *existing* feature - should have been announced right here on  the users
> list, with requests to test it.
>
> Another major point being missed here is that we aren't talking about
> some obscure bug that only happens under certain circumstances. We are
> talking about the inability to paste into input fields, in every case,
> on every platform, in every version since 4.2.x.
>


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