HSQLDB has been replaced by Firebird... Best,
Charles. Le Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:14:02 +0100, Tom Davies <[email protected]> a écrit : > Hi :) > No, the problem is much larger, as Owen states. > > Data-loss is a very serious issue, especially in a database!! > > Of course documentation tries to keep things as simple as possible! > Learning just enough about databases in order to create one is FAR > more difficult than learning just enough to use Writer/Word or > Calc/Excel. It is POSSIBLE to create a database using the internal > back-end and from there the tables can be moved into a back-end if > you are not happy about losing data. > > > The version of HsqlDb that is used as a back-end right now is NOT a > fair representation of HsqlDb itself. The one in the back-end > doesn't update and was heavily tweaked. It is NOT just because it's > dependant on Java. > > People who get the proper HsqlDb from it's own project's website and > use it as an external back-end tend to report seeing a vast > improvement in quality and none of the problems the internal one has. > > When all the tweaks were put in place it was probably due to pressure > to force Base to act in a way it wasn't originally designed to be > used in order to be as limited as MS Access. > > > LO devs are working at replacing the in-built one with a more pure > version of something else. Presumably this time making it easier to > upgrade. Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > On 5 July 2014 18:06, Dale Erwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 7/4/2014 11:40 PM, Owen Genat wrote: > > > >> NoOp wrote > >> > >>> On 07/04/2014 12:37 AM, Tom Davies wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi :) > >>>> There are a few reasons; > >>>> * Base needs an external back-end but most new users wont be > >>>> aware of that > >>>> > >>> Interesting. I never knew that Base "needs an external > >>> back-end"... Perhaps you can get the documentation folks to add > >>> that to the help files and the Base docs > >>> > >> This will be unlikely to happen in the short term as the so-called > >> "split" configuration is considered to be for experts only. The > >> idea behind the "embedded" configuration (i.e., a database > >> back-end inside an ODF container) > >> was developed to mask some of the database back-end detail and for > >> portability. While simpler, the embedded configuration is reported > >> as suffering greater data loss / corruption issues, due to the > >> nature of the packaging. > >> > >> There are numerous threads over on the Apache OO forum about > >> problems with the embedded configuration. There is also a lengthy > >> and detailed discussion > >> about Base / ODF container portability > >> <http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/7876> that provides several > >> links to > >> the mentioned Apache OO forum threads. Summary: In order for a > >> "split" configuration to become more widespread it would be ideal > >> for some sort of pack-n-go facility to be developed for Base to > >> allow greater portability of > >> data in a manner more in keeping with office documents. > >> > > > > I thought Base had HSQLDB built into it, but COULD use a different > > back end if desired. The only drawback I can see to using HSQLDB > > is that it needs to be accessed from a Java environment. I have > > used standalone HSQLDB in Java apps and found it to be very robust > > and surprisingly fast in light of the fact that Java is an > > interpreted language. > > > > Dale Erwin > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] > > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- > > unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: > > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent > > to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > > -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-founder, The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
