Hi :)
Errr, just to highlight the point that while i think Doc (NOT DocX) is
the best format for file-sharing right now it is not a good
future-proof format for long-term storage.  ODF is better for storage
because it's implementation is closer to the specifications drawn up
as it's ISO standard.

In 20-30 years or even longer it is likely to be much easier to throw
together something to read all documents saved in ODF format.  Doc and
DocX implementations are too far from their written specs and too
variable across different versions of MS Office.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 30 November 2013 20:44, Tom Davies <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi :)
> Pedro is right and i like his solution.  People were/are happy to
> download and install Adobe Acrobat to read PDFs.
>
> The minor amendment i would make is that Doc is MUCH better for
> interoperability than DocX.  Doc is almost always smooth but i'm sure
> it has it's occasional problems.  DocX often seems to have problems
> just as Rtf never achieved MS's promise of being an interoperable
> format either.  Doc used to have much more trouble but MS seem to be
> doing a lot less to develop it now that it's not the default format in
> MS Office now so it's settled into being a smooth and fairly reliable
> stepping stone between many different programs.
>
> However ODF is a lot more secure and each of the different versions
> has been fully documented.  All the various programs that use ODF
> implement it as per the written spec except where bug-reports have
> been posted against the app to "flag-up" divergence.  LO and OO add  a
> little more functionality to the 1.2 standard and have written that up
> as "1.2 (Extended)" and have presumably pushed that to the OASIS
> consortium to be included in the next update to the format even though
> that is likely to be many years away.
> https://www.oasis-open.org/
>
> OASIS developed the format, not Sun, not TDF, not Oracle and not
> Apache.  The consortium has more than 5,000 participants representing
> over 600 organizations and individual members in more than 65
> countries.  TDF is in that 5,000 but so is IBM and even Microsoft.
>
>
> Many other programs use ODF;
> AbiWord
> Adobe Buzzword
> Apache OpenOffice
> Atlantis Word Processor
> Calligra Suite
> Corel WordPerfect Office X6
> Evince
> Google Drive (was Google Docs)
> Gnumeric
> IBM Lotus Symphony
> Inkscape exports .odg
> KOffice
> LibreOffice
> Microsoft Office 2007 (from service pack 2 release) - errr but badly
> and breaks spreadsheets
> Microsoft Office 2010  - errr also badly and still breaks spreadsheets
> Microsoft Office 2013
> Microsoft SkyDrive / Office Web Apps
> NeoOffice
> Okular
> OpenOffice.org
> Scribus imports .odt and .odg
> SoftMaker Office
> Sun Microsystems StarOffice
> WordPad 6.1 (Windows 7) partial support.
> Zoho Office Suite
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> On 30 November 2013 18:44, Phil Troy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I noticed earlier that there was a brief mention of incompatability between
>> libreoffice files and microsoft office files.  This is a major problem that
>> has been going on for years and it is a major stumbling block to achieving
>> the libreoffice goal "to eliminate the digital divide in society by giving
>> everyone access to office productivity tools free of charge to enable them
>> to participate as full citizens in the 21st century"
>>
>> This issue has existed for years.  Importing files from microsoft office to
>> libreoffice corrupts the files and documents.  This should have been fixed
>> by somehow cleaning the imported document, even if it meant some loss of
>> formatting, during the import process.  If the above goal is to be taken
>> seriously, this needs to be one of the highest priorities.  Period.
>>
>> Phil Troy
>>
>>
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