Tom wrote:

>3.  Macros can be written in proper programming languages such as C++
>or Python but people can use a slightly different version of "Basic"
>that is not so vulnerable.  Macros are run slightly differently so that they 
>can't cause infections.

It is, however, easier to find material that teavches one how to write a macro 
for MSO, than  to write a macro for LibO

>8.  handles a much wider range of formats from other programs including many 
>MS ones that have been dropped by MS.

There has been some discussion about dropping support for some of the older 
file formats.  Not from the  vintage when WangWriter reigned supreme, but from 
the days of OpenOffice 1.5.  

>9.  Relatively easily switches between different languages so that
non-English speakers can still use it.  On Windows you have to struggle to find 
an appropriate font and "regionalisation" but on Ubuntu it loads the font when 
you load the language.

How does LibreOfffice in say, Korean, behave, when installed on an English (GB) 
version of Windows? On the flipside, how does English (UK) LibO behave, when 
installed on a Japanese version of Windows?  

And along those lines, is there still a person, or group that constructs:
* A Pan-Indian LibO DVD.  (LibO for the four major operating systems, in all of 
the official languaes, and most of the semi-official languages of India.);
*A Southern African DVD (LibO in the official languages of South Africa, 
Namibia, Mocambique, Angola, Lesotho, Swaziland, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zambia, 
Malawi, for the four major operating systems.);
* The Arabic, English, German, Hebrew, Russian compilation LibO DVD, for the 
four major operating systems.;

>11.  it's a LOT cheaper, especially for individual people (rather than
large companies who may end up employing programmers at a fraction the
cost license fees would have been)

Whether or not LibO is cheaper than MSO, is a matter of deciding what factors 
to look at, and how to define those factors. 

*  For the typical individual, there is no visible difference between the 
upfront cost of MSO, and the upfront cost of LibO. They both appear to be 
gratis.
*   On the support end of things, there is a huge cost difference between the 
two. (US$50 per incident versus US$500 per incident.)

* For corporations, it is much easier, and cheaper to find Level 3 Tier support 
for MSO, than LibO.  On the flipside, Level 3 Tier support for LibO can be done 
in-house --- if the board of directors fully backs that proposition, and 
provides the requisite support to carry it off.

>Many companies, especially charities, can buy MS Office for bargain discount 
>special deals. 

Microsoft's hypocracy in offering discounts for their software to charitable 
organizations has been well documented for more than a decade.  Their 
charitable sales arm is best known for ensuring its victims spend more money on 
software and hardware, than those victims receives in gifts, kind, and related 
donations.

 >When an individual person tries to buy MS Office it can easily cost them over 
 >£100 and may be several hundred.

For the majority of individuals, MSO is effectively gratis, because it is 
included in the junkware that infects their new computer.  For a significant 
proportion of the rest of the population, MSO can be had for under 100 Euros.

What people tend to forget, is that MSO was not designed for SOHO usage. 

>Individuals usually only get some of the programs and may need to buy 
>Publisher or other things separately.

Publisher has never been part of the basic MSO packages.   
I'm not even sure it was part of any of the professional packages.
I know that it came with an enterprise edition, but those  editions are best 
compared with Debian, or Xubuntu.  

>Is it morally right for a charity to expect it's service-users to spend so 
>much more money than they need to and thus ensure the charity can keep getting 
>special discounts?

I've had this discussion in three different states, with double that number of 
organizations, private, public, and government agencies.  The bottom line is 
that the system is not designed to help those that are ostensibly being helped. 
 Rephrased, it is designed to ensure the highest possible cost, for the lowest 
quality goods, with no input from those who are supposed to benefit from the 
services that are allegedly being rendered.

jonathon
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