Tom tom tom tom tom.... The ODF spec is non-robust. In truth, it is much like the current EPUB spec, pathetic. No two platforms have the same font set, nor do they render them the same way. WordPerfect fixed this years ago by expanding their format to include full font information. They had the same rendering engine on multiple platforms, and yes, it actually rendered the same way, not like that pathetic thing IBM is using for Symphony now, which only works on Windows.
Until the ODF spec includes support for embedding all fonts used in the document, AND A SINGLE RENDERING ENGINE WHICH WORKS THE SAME ON ALL PLATFORMS COMPLETELY DIVORCED FROM CURRENT/LOCAL PRINTER SETTINGS, it's not portable. During the days of DOS, most fonts were provided by printers, not the OS or the application. Word processors like WordPerfect had to be tightly coupled to the printer, especially the 24-pin dot matrix printers, in order to create documents for lawyers (still WP's primary market.) Once networks were introduced things got hinky, but, most word processors still have some switch somewhere, usually more than one, which turns on enhanced screen formatting based upon current default printer. I haven't went and looked for these switches in Libre Office, but will be my last Mt. Dew they are there in the code. I've seen the physical evidence. When I'm writing one of my geek books (http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com) and decided to print out a single page/chart to keep beside me while working, I print it on the old T65 clunker on my desk. The capabilities of this tiny HP OfficeJet are no where near my default Optra S 1855 tank that I use for full book printing. All I have to do is print one page to this T65 and Libre Office halts for a while, then you notice the text shift on the page and that your page count is different. It's just &(^)(&)(8ing lovely. There is nothing I would rather do in life than spend days fixing page breaks I've already fixed N times before. On Sat, 2011-07-02 at 14:01 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > Since we have no control over how MS mishandles their implementation of MS > formats it would surely be better to convince people to switch to ODF formats. > > People are happy to download pdfs and then click on the button to download > the > latest pdf reader from Adobe. We could be pushing the ODF formats in the > same > way and for very similar reasons, ie that documents don't get screwed-up when > everyone uses ODF. > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: tracey002 <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, 1 July, 2011 20:59:54 > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support > > > They do not care if the "default" format is an open standard or a > > proprietary format. > > MS has changed the doc(x) format several time which leaves users of > > the older format out of luck. > You are right: User A just wants to send a document to User B without an > hassle (and vise versa). > > Which is a good reason for Libre Office to do a better job at handling > MS docs than MS does. > It would be noteworthy if the folks at MS Office Applications starting > to get concerned about the developments at Libre Office. > Tracey > > Jay Lozier [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 16:25 +0100, Mark Stanton wrote: > > > > > I don't (entirely) disagree with you on the dirty trick front. > > > But what an interesting world we live in when an unpleasantly dirty > > > trick like that is seen as a legitimate tool... > > > > > > Mark Stanton > > > One small step for mankind... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Part of the "dirty tricks" come from not understanding your customers' > > needs. Most office suite users are only interested in file formats so > > they share documents with others. In fact they would rather have on > > "default" format. 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