Op 16-10-2026 om 11:02 schreef Wei ZHOU:
Hi Lucian,
Thanks for sharing. I agree that Debian 13 would be a nice option.
The script looks good and the steps are very similar to one I am working
on. Mine supports customizing other cloud images (Debian, of course, as
well as Ubuntu, Rocky, AlmaLinux, etc.) and converting them into specific
formats.
Packer would be a good option for production templates. However,
customizing existing cloud images is much easier and faster - I can get
qcow2, VHD, and OVA templates ready in about 10 minutes. Sorry @Wido den
Hollander <[email protected]>
All good! As long as we have a proper template build-in which works with
CloudStack flawlessly I'm happy.
Wido
-Wei
On Thu, Oct 15, 2026 at 3:10 AM Nux <[email protected]> wrote:
I've manipulated a Debian 13 genericcloud image into a possible
CloudStack default template.
Build script and samples here, everything is explained in the script,
I'd appreciate your thoughts, especially around security and SSH access.
https://jenkins.openvm.eu/files/deftmpl/
Lucian
On 2026-10-12 10:14, Kiran Chavala wrote:
Subject: [DISCUSS] Replacing the default built-in CentOS template in
CloudStack
Hi all,
I'd like to start a discussion on replacing the default built-in
template
that ships with every CloudStack installation.
The original GitHub discussion is here, and you're welcome to comment
there
as well:
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/discussions/13797
Today, the built-in templates registered for each hypervisor are quite
outdated:
- KVM: CentOS 5.5 (64-bit) no GUI
http://download.cloudstack.org/releases/2.2.0/eec2209b-9875-3c8d-92be-c001bd8a0faf.qcow2.bz2
- XenServer: CentOS 5.6 (64-bit) no GUI
http://download.cloudstack.org/templates/builtin/centos56-x86_64.vhd.bz2
- vSphere: CentOS 5.3 (64-bit) no GUI
http://download.cloudstack.org/releases/2.2.0/CentOS5.3-x86_64.ova
These templates are no longer practical, even for basic testing:
1. The VM deploys, but the SSH service doesn't work, so it's of little
use
for validating a fresh installation.
2. They're starting to break outright on newer hypervisors. On ACS 4.22
with XenServer 8.4, deploying a VM from the default CentOS template
fails
with "Cannot find Template CentOS 7 on XenServer host", because
XenServer
8.4 has deprecated the CentOS 7 guest template (tracked in
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/13798).
What I'd like to see is a new default template that is:
- current, and in line with what users actually run today
- small in footprint, so it downloads quickly and can be used for quick
testing right after installation
- functional for the core guest features: root password reset, SSH
keys,
user data, and cloud-init
Candidates I've looked at:
- macchinina (https://github.com/NuxRo/macchinina)
- Alpine Linux cloud images (https://alpinelinux.org/cloud/)
- CirrOS (https://github.com/cirros-dev/cirros)
- Debian cloud images (https://cloud.debian.org/images/cloud/)
- Ubuntu minimal cloud images (
https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/minimal/releases/)
- AlmaLinux Generic Cloud (
https://wiki.almalinux.org/cloud/Generic-cloud.html)
- Rocky Linux (https://wiki.rockylinux.org/rocky/image/)
- Fedora Cloud (https://fedoraproject.org/cloud/download/)
My personal preference is between two options:
1. macchinina: built for CloudStack testing, but it needs a refresh and
someone to maintain it going forward.
2. Alpine cloud image: very small and well maintained upstream. We'd
need
to run tests to confirm password, SSH key, and user-data behaviour
across
hypervisors.
Most of the mainstream distro cloud images are in the 500-600 MB range,
which goes against the "quick test after install" goal.
I'd love to hear the community's views on:
- which image (or images) you'd prefer as the default
- any hypervisor-specific concerns (KVM / XenServer-XCP-ng / VMware)
If there's rough consensus, I'm happy to follow up with a PR and
testing
across hypervisors.
Thanks,
Kiran Chavala
