Hi Geoff ,

On your Virtualbox XenServers training appliances, are you able to
install a domU distributions (e.g. Ubuntu 12.04 server)?

I just performed a quick test in XenServer 6.2, and I am hitting an
error (INVALID_SOURCE) which I think is due to the lack of HMV.

My basic requirement for the environment is to be able to start a
Ubuntu 12.04 operating system, so it would be good to know if that is
possible.

Many thanks,

Chris


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Geoff Higginbottom
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Our current setup uses two VMs running inside VirtualBox, one CentOS VM for 
> CloudStack, MySQL and bith Pri and Sec Storage via NFS.  A 2nd VM is running 
> Citrix XenServer 6.2.
>
> The key is everything is opensource, hence not using VMware Workstation 
> (which would perform better).
>
> Regards
>
> Geoff Higginbottom
>
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>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris snow [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 07 April 2014 12:07
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: CloudStack on qemu
>
> Hi Geoff,
>
> When I started playing with Cloudstack a few months back, I was looking to 
> create a vagrant based Cloudstack IaaS for Apache Stratos
> (PaaS) developers.   The journey has been very long, but  not
> completely wasted because it has given me quite a bit of exposure to the 
> Cloudstack codebase and architecture.
>
> With my vagrant+virtualbox+debian+xen environment, I'm able to deploy a 
> devcloud tiny Linux instance, but that's about as far as I have been able to 
> get with Xen and Cloudstack in a virtualbox guest.  Creating an instance from 
> a distro ISO is proving to be quite difficult - this is where I was hoping 
> Cloudstack + Qemu would make things easier.
>
> A Cloudstack user appliance sounds great!  Will you use vagrant, or create 
> standalone virtual machines?  Will it be VMware only?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Chris
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Geoff Higginbottom 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> That SQL command is simply to allow you to add a non HVM Xen Host into 
>> CloudStack, so if you have added the host this is your first hurdle overcome.
>>
>> The problem is really with VirtualBox and its limitations.  For example I 
>> also run XenServer 6.2 test hosts, but running on VMware boxes as VMware 
>> supports nested virtualisation whereas VirtualBox does not.
>>
>> We are working on an alternate 'CloudStack Appliance' for our Bootcamps 
>> factoring in the new way Console Proxy access now works (removing reliance 
>> on realhostip.com is actually a help for this type of build) and we may be 
>> able to share that with the community. It's being 'road tested' as colab 
>> this week so assuming its successful, we may be able to share it within the 
>> next couple of weeks.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Geoff Higginbottom
>>
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>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: chris snow [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: 07 April 2014 10:16
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: CloudStack on qemu
>>
>> Hi Geoff,
>>
>> I had run that command, but  I still received errors such as VM_HVM_REQUIRED 
>> (from XCP), INVALID_SOURCE [1] and host automatically
>> rebooting.    Some of the issues were probably due to my customised
>> version of DevCloud [2] and the Xen setup.
>>
>> I was hoping that qemu would give me full virtualisation inside virtualbox, 
>> so would eliminate my newbie errors such as creating templates using the 
>> wrong OS Type flag.
>>
>> Has there been any discussion within the CloudStack community to provide a 
>> virtualbox/vmware (+vagrant) envrionment that people new to cloudstack can 
>> download and immediately get started playing with a
>> pre-configured Cloudstack.   Maybe, a sister project to DevCloud,
>> something like UserCloud?  I see Simstack [3] has created an environment 
>> using the simulator, but that won't let you play with real instances.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> ---
>> [1] [INVALID_SOURCE, Unable to access a required file in the specified
>> repository: file:///tmp/cdrom-repo-j5Socp/isolinux/vmlinuz., ] [2]
>> https://github.com/snowch/cloudstack-vagrant-box
>> [3] https://github.com/runseb/simstack
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Geoff Higginbottom 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> To use a XenServer which does not have HVM support you need to run
>>> this command to update the CloudStack DB. Replacing [password] &
>>> [account] with your MySQL Credentials (this assumes the command is
>>> run on the local MySQL Server so add -h [IPADDRESS] if running
>>> remotely
>>> etc)
>>>
>>> mysql -p[password] [account] -e \ "INSERT INTO cloud.configuration 
>>> (category, instance, component, name, value, description) VALUES 
>>> ('Advanced', 'DEFAULT', 'management-server', 'xen.check.hvm', 'false', 
>>> 'Shoud we allow only the XenServers support HVM');"
>>>
>>> We run our CloudStack Bootcamp
>>> (http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/) on Virtual Box using
>>> XenServer as the HyperVisor and CloudStack on a CentOS VM, this way
>>> we get the full feature set of an Advanced Zone including Console
>>> Proxy etc
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Geoff Higginbottom
>>>
>>> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
>>>
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: chris snow [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: 07 April 2014 07:00
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: CloudStack on qemu
>>>
>>> Yes, I have been using devcloud2 as the basis of building a vagrant box 
>>> with xen and CloudStack.
>>>  On 7 Apr 2014 01:49, "OutBackDingo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On 04/06/2014 06:56 PM, chris snow wrote:
>>>> > I have been trying to get a CloudStack and xen development
>>>> > environment running inside virtualbox, but xen without hvm doesn't
>>>> > seem to be straightforward.
>>>> >
>>>> > I have seen a post [1] discussing some options for running
>>>> > CloudStack using qemu instead of xen as the hypervisor, but I'm
>>>> > not clear on the outcome of the discussion.
>>>> >
>>>> > - What is the status of qemu support?
>>>> >
>>>> > - Are there any instructions for setting up CloudStack with qemu
>>>> > instead of kvm?
>>>>
>>>> Have you considered trying devcloud2
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Many thanks, Chris
>>>> >
>>>> > --- [1]
>>>> > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.cloudstack.devel/1303
>>>> > 6
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