Hi William,
From my side, I have customers that are using ActiveMQ Classic for
heavy workload and with the right tuning and hardware setting it works
very well so I cannot see why you should migrate to Artemis to make it work.
regards,
François
Le 19/02/2025 à 17:49, William Crowell a écrit :
Justin,
I have not tried that. I am trying to push management to use Artemis instead
of Classic because I think Artemis will perform better for their heavy workload.
Regards,
William Crowell
From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>
Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 11:48 AM
To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are there any hardware recommendations for ActiveMQ Classic?
Have you tried using your OpenWire client with Artemis? If so, what did you
find?
Justin
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:05 AM William Crowell
<wcrow...@perforce.com.invalid> wrote:
Justin,
It would be OpenWire.
Regards,
William Crowell
From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>
Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 10:56 AM
To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are there any hardware recommendations for ActiveMQ Classic?
Which "Classic library" are you referring to? Artemis supports the OpenWire
protocol used by the JMS client implementation shipped with Classic.
In many cases you can simply point existing OpenWire clients from Classic
to Artemis and everything will "just work."
Justin
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:50 AM William Crowell
<wcrow...@perforce.com.invalid> wrote:
Justin and Matt,
That’s kind of what I thought. I just wanted to see if there were any
current benchmarks for Classic. I think there were at one-point years
ago,
but they are so old.
The goal right now to is produce and consume up to 40 million messages a
day. Each message would be 400-1000 bytes. I think we would need some
really beefy hardware for Classic to support this kind of traffic. Our
clients are coded against Classic library, so it would be difficult to
switch to Artemis.
Regards,
William Crowell
From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org>
Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 10:37 AM
To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are there any hardware recommendations for ActiveMQ Classic?
I agree with Matt 100%.
Aside from wide variation in the workloads there is also wide variation
in
performance goals. Some folks don't mind a heavy workload with relatively
high latency. Some folks want the heaviest possible workload with the
lowest possible latency.
My recommendation would be to start by defining your workload and your
performance goals. Then start with some kind of middle-of-the-road
hardware
and do performance benchmarking with your specific workload. Then adjust
accordingly. Maybe you need more CPU, more RAM, faster disk, faster
network, etc. If you can't get that then maybe you can modify your
application's behavior (e.g. batching work into transactions, using
non-durable vs. durable messages, etc.). Or maybe everything is "good
enough" and you can move on to other tasks.
Good luck!
Justin
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:02 AM Matt Pavlovich <mattr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi William-
This is a mission impossible question. The hardware required to address
different workloads can vary wildly. For example — thousands of
connections handling a few million messages per day vs a hundred
connections handling 1B messages per day.
ActiveMQ can be embedded down to run on a Raspberry Pi or scale up to
very
large heaps on a single broker.
That being said— the faster the disk you can get, the faster the
messages
will be processed!
-Matt Pavlovich
On Feb 19, 2025, at 5:33 AM, William Crowell
<wcrow...@perforce.com.INVALID> wrote:
Hi,
Are there any hardware recommendations (not minimum requirements) for
ActiveMQ Classic? I am trying to determine what CPU, RAM, and SSD
type I
will need when sizing out a production environment. Are there any
recent
benchmark tests for a particular hardware setup? What I will probably
need
to do is put together an environment and run JMeter tests against the
broker to see if it meets the requirements for the number of messages
produced/consumed that my application requires. I am assuming that the
more producers/consumers I have then the more CPU cores I will need.
Regards,
William Crowell
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