There are no plans to drop OpenWire support from Artemis here at Apache. I expect Artemis will support any changes to OpenWire for the foreseeable future.
As I see it, what happens in other Artemis distributions is immaterial to what happens here at Apache. Justin On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:31 AM Matt Pavlovich <mattr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi William— > > Keep in mind that ActiveMQ Classic will continue to advance OpenWire > versions for new features and capabilities. The current roadmap includes > plans to finish out JMS 2.0 support, etc. Artemis will always need to > consume those changes, and some Artemis distributions are dropping support > for OpenWire. > > Thanks, > Matt Pavlovich > > > On Feb 19, 2025, at 10:02 AM, William Crowell > <wcrow...@perforce.com.INVALID> wrote: > > > > Justin, > > > > It would be OpenWire. > > > > Regards, > > > > William Crowell > > > > From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> > > Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 10:56 AM > > To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org> > > Subject: Re: Are there any hardware recommendations for ActiveMQ Classic? > > Which "Classic library" are you referring to? Artemis supports the > OpenWire > > protocol used by the JMS client implementation shipped with Classic. > > > > In many cases you can simply point existing OpenWire clients from Classic > > to Artemis and everything will "just work." > > > > > > Justin > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:50 AM William Crowell > > <wcrow...@perforce.com.invalid> wrote: > > > >> Justin and Matt, > >> > >> That’s kind of what I thought. I just wanted to see if there were any > >> current benchmarks for Classic. I think there were at one-point years > ago, > >> but they are so old. > >> > >> The goal right now to is produce and consume up to 40 million messages a > >> day. Each message would be 400-1000 bytes. I think we would need some > >> really beefy hardware for Classic to support this kind of traffic. Our > >> clients are coded against Classic library, so it would be difficult to > >> switch to Artemis. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> William Crowell > >> > >> From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> > >> Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 10:37 AM > >> To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org> > >> Subject: Re: Are there any hardware recommendations for ActiveMQ > Classic? > >> I agree with Matt 100%. > >> > >> Aside from wide variation in the workloads there is also wide variation > in > >> performance goals. Some folks don't mind a heavy workload with > relatively > >> high latency. Some folks want the heaviest possible workload with the > >> lowest possible latency. > >> > >> My recommendation would be to start by defining your workload and your > >> performance goals. Then start with some kind of middle-of-the-road > hardware > >> and do performance benchmarking with your specific workload. Then adjust > >> accordingly. Maybe you need more CPU, more RAM, faster disk, faster > >> network, etc. If you can't get that then maybe you can modify your > >> application's behavior (e.g. batching work into transactions, using > >> non-durable vs. durable messages, etc.). Or maybe everything is "good > >> enough" and you can move on to other tasks. > >> > >> Good luck! > >> > >> > >> Justin > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:02 AM Matt Pavlovich <mattr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >>> Hi William- > >>> > >>> This is a mission impossible question. The hardware required to address > >>> different workloads can vary wildly. For example — thousands of > >>> connections handling a few million messages per day vs a hundred > >>> connections handling 1B messages per day. > >>> > >>> ActiveMQ can be embedded down to run on a Raspberry Pi or scale up to > >> very > >>> large heaps on a single broker. > >>> > >>> That being said— the faster the disk you can get, the faster the > messages > >>> will be processed! > >>> > >>> -Matt Pavlovich > >>> > >>>> On Feb 19, 2025, at 5:33 AM, William Crowell > >>> <wcrow...@perforce.com.INVALID> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> Are there any hardware recommendations (not minimum requirements) for > >>> ActiveMQ Classic? I am trying to determine what CPU, RAM, and SSD > type I > >>> will need when sizing out a production environment. Are there any > recent > >>> benchmark tests for a particular hardware setup? What I will probably > >> need > >>> to do is put together an environment and run JMeter tests against the > >>> broker to see if it meets the requirements for the number of messages > >>> produced/consumed that my application requires. I am assuming that the > >>> more producers/consumers I have then the more CPU cores I will need. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> William Crowell > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> This e-mail may contain information that is privileged or > confidential. > >>> If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and any > >>> attachments and notify us immediately. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. 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