Thank you for that advice Matt. I will find out what version is in use and get 
them on the lastest.

Vince

On 5/25/21, 11:41 AM, "Matt Pavlovich" <mattr...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Vince-

    Check out the lease-locker and JDBC updates in the 5.16.x releases (5.16.2 
is latest)?  Many JDBC changes in 5.16.x series.

    Thanks,
    Matt Pavlovich

    > On May 24, 2021, at 9:21 PM, Vince Cox <v...@perforce.com> wrote:
    >
    > Matt,
    >
    > We have not noticed any locking. Data server from the DB just fine. But, 
the leased locker functionality seems to fail over errantly while using the 
pool.
    >
    > I will see if I can get them to open a Jira against this.
    >
    > Thank you.
    >
    > Vince
    >
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    > To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org>
    > Subject: Re: ActiveMQ multiple JDBC data sources in same configuration
    >
    > Hey  Vince,
    >
    > Most likely DB tuning and/or connection lifecycle coordination b/w the 
connection factory used by ActiveMQ and the database instance. Can’t rule out a 
bad or flaky database either. If the customer is struggling with keeping the 
connection pool tuned and consistent, adding more systems is going to increase 
the surface area for troubleshooting.
    >
    > Have them open a JIRA and share what they can on the connection settings. 
Also, they’ll need to coordinate with their DB team to provide some indication 
as to why the locking is occurring from the DB point of view.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Matt Pavlovich
    >
    >> On May 24, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Vince Cox <v...@perforce.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> Thanks for replying so quickly Matt.
    >>
    >> Customer is not having and issue with the data in the DB. The issue 
shows itself when ActiveMQ randomly has failover events when the lock is in the 
DB. It’s using the same connection pool as the store. Seems to be some type of 
contention and master slave pair fails over.
    >>
    >> Vince
    >>
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    >> From: Matt Pavlovich <mattr...@gmail.com>
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    >> To: users@activemq.apache.org <users@activemq.apache.org>
    >> Subject: Re: ActiveMQ multiple JDBC data sources in same configuration
    >>
    >> Hello Vince-
    >>
    >> Are you able to detail out the use case and rationale for separating the 
data store from the locker? On the surface that sounds like creating an extra 
runtime coupling with a distributed system— generally that approach creates 
more aggregate downtime.
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> Matt Pavlovich
    >>
    >>> On May 24, 2021, at 3:42 PM, Vince Cox <v...@perforce.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Are there any future plans with ActiveMQ that will provide separate 
data source (using JDBC) to handle leader activity and message traffic? We are 
aware we can use kahaDB and JDBC, but we’d like to have a separate JDBC sources 
for our message store and our lock.
    >>>
    >>> Thank you.
    >>>
    >>> Vince
    >>>
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