https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2561
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 11:48, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > there is plenty of time > even JIRA is not created :)) > > On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 11:43, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> > wrote: > >> Yes, you may use it for Farsi and Urdu as well. >> >> 05D0-05EA for Hebrew >> >> But, give me some time for 'Kurdish' as users are mostly using 'Kurdish >> Sorani' and not 'Kurdish Kurmanji' >> >> On 12/10/20 6:55 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >> >> Is it for Arabic only? (maybe it also will work for Persian) ? >> >> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 10:33, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> >> wrote: >> >>> 0627-063A >>> >>> This the common range as other characters are scattered in the table and >>> can not be in one range... >>> >>> https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0600.pdf >>> >>> >>> On 12/10/20 6:21 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>> >>> please re-read my post >>> >>> especially this part: >>> *If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the >>> range specific to your language* >>> *NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter >>> should be less than code for the second one* >>> *codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/ >>> <http://www.unicode.org/charts/>* >>> >>> For Arabic the above mean: >>> 1) go to http://www.unicode.org/charts/ >>> 2) choose `Arabic` >>> 3) send me the range for ex: >>> start (code 0621) ء >>> end (code 064A) ي >>> >>> >>> I don't think 0-9 is a good idea in general >>> so you can do this change later on for your local installation >>> >>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 09:41, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> unless 'A-Z' is the same as 'a-z', it will confuse so many users, >>>> first, they do not use Latin characters, second, 'capital' concept does not >>>> exist in their alphabets. can it be only numerals '0-9' ? >>>> On 12/10/20 5:32 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>> the plan will be: >>>> 1) captcha range will be added to this [1] file >>>> 2) by default it will be 'A'-'Z' >>>> >>>> If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the >>>> range specific to your language >>>> NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter >>>> should be less than code for the second one >>>> codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/ >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml >>>> >>>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 23:59, Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, what I want is that limiting it to only capital letters and >>>>> informing the user accordingly is a fantastic idea. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 11:54 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well, >>>>>> the info text is just a label, site admin can re-translate/customize >>>>>> it (upgrade might be an issue here ...) >>>>>> >>>>>> Additionally we might add `captchaStartLetter` `captchaEndLetter` to >>>>>> every language here >>>>>> >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml >>>>>> with default of 'A'-'Z' for all languages >>>>>> >>>>>> site admin can change this (upgrade will still be an issue ...) >>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 13:16, Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I just realized that I should offer this clarification for some of >>>>>>> our friends, to avoid any misunderstandings: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "terrific" means "wonderful" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "terrific" does NOT mean "terrible"! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> English is a fun language. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 01:11 Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maxim, thank you. That would be terrific! Robert >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 00:39 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would it help if Capital letters will be used instead of small >>>>>>>>> ones? >>>>>>>>> And maybe there will be text like: Captcha consist of English >>>>>>>>> letters 'A' - 'Z' only .... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 02:49, Robert Savickas < >>>>>>>>> robsavic...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My users, some of whom use non-Latin alfabets, have no problem >>>>>>>>>> with using Latin letters in the captcha. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My current problem with the captcha, shared by my users is that >>>>>>>>>> the characters are often hard to recognize. Capital I vesus small l. >>>>>>>>>> Or >>>>>>>>>> capital I verus ]. Or m versus n. Or g versus q. Often, the >>>>>>>>>> letters are >>>>>>>>>> sufficiently deformed so as to be difficult not only to Robot, but >>>>>>>>>> also to >>>>>>>>>> Robert and other humans to distinguish. As a result, several >>>>>>>>>> captchas are >>>>>>>>>> often needed till a person can get it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Granted, it is a terrific tool for teaching folks how to have >>>>>>>>>> patience, highly recommended. But sometimes, folks are under the time >>>>>>>>>> pressure to enter the meeting (now, why do they try to connect only >>>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>>> very last minute, that's a separate question)... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 08:48 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the bad news: there seems to be no universal way to determine >>>>>>>>>>> alphabet by language >>>>>>>>>>> the ugly news: there are languages without alphabet .... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> start and end character can be manually specified here >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Another option might be to made this range _optional_ >>>>>>>>>>> so 'a' - 'z' will be used if else is not specified .... >>>>>>>>>>> Not sure is someone will bother to specify different range ... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> but I'm not sure how good is this idea :((( >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> @Robert what kind of difficulties your user have with the >>>>>>>>>>> captcha? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 20:28, Ali Alhaidary < >>>>>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We can write the language name on the 'new user' or 'change >>>>>>>>>>>> password' >>>>>>>>>>>> screens ... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/2/20 4:24 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> > It is definitely can be localized >>>>>>>>>>>> > unfortunately this might lead to issues with guessing the text >>>>>>>>>>>> > for ex. many letters in Russian looks exactly as in English >>>>>>>>>>>> but the >>>>>>>>>>>> > text will not be equal :(( >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 19:05, Ali Alhaidary < >>>>>>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >> If no votes are collected, can we localize it? >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31828048/how-to-set-localization-in-google-recaptcha >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> On 12/2/20 2:59 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> Any more votes? >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> On 12/1/20 2:22 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> I am with it :-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> On 12/1/20 2:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> And as usual I'll add such switch if there will be enough >>>>>>>>>>>> votes for it >>>>>>>>>>>> >> while I, personally, will not recommend to use it >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 13:14, Ali Alhaidary < >>>>>>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> True, one can not always get what he loves :-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On 11/30/20 9:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Well, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> I'm not a big fan of such "enhancements" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> with all these options password "can be 'qwerty' again" .... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 12:58, Ali Alhaidary < >>>>>>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> I would love it to be an option like caps and special >>>>>>>>>>>> characters, especially with the difficulty of RTL users like ours >>>>>>>>>>>> :-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> On 11/30/20 8:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Hello Robert, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> it is currently impossible without code modification >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 14:37, Robert Savickas < >>>>>>>>>>>> robsavic...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Dear Maxim, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to disable captcha when changing the >>>>>>>>>>>> password? The images are often difficult to read, and many users >>>>>>>>>>>> have to >>>>>>>>>>>> reset the captcha image a few times, till they finally get it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 01:15 Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> I have added notifications to OM (as part of >>>>>>>>>>>> OPENMEETINGS-2190) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please take a look at demo-next and tell me >>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> maybe it should be improved somehow? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> text, icon, anything else :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Maxim >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Maxim >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Maxim >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> >> Maxim >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Maxim >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> Maxim >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Maxim >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Maxim >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Maxim >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Maxim >> >> > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > -- Best regards, Maxim
