Is it for Arabic only? (maybe it also will work for Persian) ? On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 10:33, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote:
> 0627-063A > > This the common range as other characters are scattered in the table and > can not be in one range... > > https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0600.pdf > > > On 12/10/20 6:21 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: > > please re-read my post > > especially this part: > *If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the range > specific to your language* > *NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter should > be less than code for the second one* > *codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/ > <http://www.unicode.org/charts/>* > > For Arabic the above mean: > 1) go to http://www.unicode.org/charts/ > 2) choose `Arabic` > 3) send me the range for ex: > start (code 0621) ء > end (code 064A) ي > > > I don't think 0-9 is a good idea in general > so you can do this change later on for your local installation > > On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 09:41, Ali Alhaidary <ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> > wrote: > >> unless 'A-Z' is the same as 'a-z', it will confuse so many users, first, >> they do not use Latin characters, second, 'capital' concept does not exist >> in their alphabets. can it be only numerals '0-9' ? >> On 12/10/20 5:32 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >> >> Hello All, >> >> the plan will be: >> 1) captcha range will be added to this [1] file >> 2) by default it will be 'A'-'Z' >> >> If 'A'-'Z' is not appropriate for your language, please send me the range >> specific to your language >> NOTE: this should be the range i.e. unicode code for first letter should >> be less than code for the second one >> codes can be checked for ex. here http://www.unicode.org/charts/ >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> [1] >> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml >> >> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 23:59, Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes, what I want is that limiting it to only capital letters and >>> informing the user accordingly is a fantastic idea. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 11:54 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Well, >>>> the info text is just a label, site admin can re-translate/customize it >>>> (upgrade might be an issue here ...) >>>> >>>> Additionally we might add `captchaStartLetter` `captchaEndLetter` to >>>> every language here >>>> >>>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml >>>> with default of 'A'-'Z' for all languages >>>> >>>> site admin can change this (upgrade will still be an issue ...) >>>> WDYT? >>>> >>>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 13:16, Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I just realized that I should offer this clarification for some of our >>>>> friends, to avoid any misunderstandings: >>>>> >>>>> "terrific" means "wonderful" >>>>> >>>>> "terrific" does NOT mean "terrible"! >>>>> >>>>> English is a fun language. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 01:11 Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Maxim, thank you. That would be terrific! Robert >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 00:39 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Would it help if Capital letters will be used instead of small ones? >>>>>>> And maybe there will be text like: Captcha consist of English >>>>>>> letters 'A' - 'Z' only .... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 02:49, Robert Savickas <robsavic...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My users, some of whom use non-Latin alfabets, have no problem with >>>>>>>> using Latin letters in the captcha. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My current problem with the captcha, shared by my users is that the >>>>>>>> characters are often hard to recognize. Capital I vesus small l. Or >>>>>>>> capital I verus ]. Or m versus n. Or g versus q. Often, the letters >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> sufficiently deformed so as to be difficult not only to Robot, but >>>>>>>> also to >>>>>>>> Robert and other humans to distinguish. As a result, several captchas >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> often needed till a person can get it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Granted, it is a terrific tool for teaching folks how to have >>>>>>>> patience, highly recommended. But sometimes, folks are under the time >>>>>>>> pressure to enter the meeting (now, why do they try to connect only in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> very last minute, that's a separate question)... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 08:48 Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the bad news: there seems to be no universal way to determine >>>>>>>>> alphabet by language >>>>>>>>> the ugly news: there are languages without alphabet .... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> start and end character can be manually specified here >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/languages/languages.xml >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Another option might be to made this range _optional_ >>>>>>>>> so 'a' - 'z' will be used if else is not specified .... >>>>>>>>> Not sure is someone will bother to specify different range ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but I'm not sure how good is this idea :((( >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> @Robert what kind of difficulties your user have with the captcha? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 20:28, Ali Alhaidary < >>>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We can write the language name on the 'new user' or 'change >>>>>>>>>> password' >>>>>>>>>> screens ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/2/20 4:24 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > It is definitely can be localized >>>>>>>>>> > unfortunately this might lead to issues with guessing the text >>>>>>>>>> > for ex. many letters in Russian looks exactly as in English but >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> > text will not be equal :(( >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 19:05, Ali Alhaidary < >>>>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> If no votes are collected, can we localize it? >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31828048/how-to-set-localization-in-google-recaptcha >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> On 12/2/20 2:59 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> Any more votes? >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> On 12/1/20 2:22 PM, Ali Alhaidary wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> I am with it :-) >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> On 12/1/20 2:58 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> And as usual I'll add such switch if there will be enough >>>>>>>>>> votes for it >>>>>>>>>> >> while I, personally, will not recommend to use it >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 13:14, Ali Alhaidary < >>>>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>> True, one can not always get what he loves :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> On 11/30/20 9:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> Well, >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> I'm not a big fan of such "enhancements" >>>>>>>>>> >>> with all these options password "can be 'qwerty' again" .... >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 12:58, Ali Alhaidary < >>>>>>>>>> ali.alhaid...@the5stars.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>> I would love it to be an option like caps and special >>>>>>>>>> characters, especially with the difficulty of RTL users like ours :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> On 11/30/20 8:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> Hello Robert, >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> it is currently impossible without code modification >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 14:37, Robert Savickas < >>>>>>>>>> robsavic...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Dear Maxim, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to disable captcha when changing the >>>>>>>>>> password? The images are often difficult to read, and many users >>>>>>>>>> have to >>>>>>>>>> reset the captcha image a few times, till they finally get it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 01:15 Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> I have added notifications to OM (as part of >>>>>>>>>> OPENMEETINGS-2190) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please take a look at demo-next and tell me >>>>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> maybe it should be improved somehow? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> text, icon, anything else :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Maxim >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>> Maxim >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>> Maxim >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>>>>> >> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> >> Maxim >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> Maxim >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Maxim >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Maxim >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Maxim >> >> > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > > -- Best regards, Maxim
