I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at Safari 13
And this might give as some insight of what can be improved
(not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow)

@All,
Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying to investigate
Safari 11 ?

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wag...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> No but the generic test application at
> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/
>  seems to work better now after restarting my Mac.
>
> However the OpenMeetings application setup application seems to not do
> much when recording the stream.
> And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled.
> And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using Safari13 and
> enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome however works fine.
>
> Thanks
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
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> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC" submenu in "Develop"
>> menu
>> Do you have it on Safari 13?
>> Can you "play" with options?
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for audio/video:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safari_11
>>>
>>>    - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video and audio
>>>    - Adds support for new web technologies such as WebRTC
>>>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, Media Capture API, Resource
>>>    Timing API, WebAssembly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebAssembly>,
>>>    variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63]
>>>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#cite_note-63>
>>>
>>>
>>> But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes
>>>
>>> https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release-notes/safari-13-release-notes
>>>
>>>
>>> Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be good to get a few more
>>> users to confirm on Safari13.
>>> If the issue is really a generic Safari13 limitation or not.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Seb
>>>
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
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>>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Well,
>>> >
>>> > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no idea where ATM :(((
>>> >
>>> > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without any access to internet (maybe
>>> > occasional access to mobile internet)
>>> > I thought to release before my vacation
>>> > Do you think it is possible?
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work.
>>> >> And I think I'm not alone.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks
>>> >> Seb
>>> >>
>>> >> Sebastian Wagner
>>> >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>> >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hello Sebastian, All,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I just was able to get real iMac to test
>>> >>> It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights to update it)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Everything works as expected
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I have tested demo-next as-is
>>> >>>
>>> >>> My steps were
>>> >>> 1) on Safari enter restricted room
>>> >>> 2) start Audio only broadcasting
>>> >>> Result: green sound bar is jumping
>>> >>> 3) enter same room Ubuntu 20.04+Chromium latest
>>> >>> Result: I can hear the audio in the room
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I will have access to the iMac for couple more hours, please let me
>>> know
>>> >>> if I should do any additional tests
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>>> >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> As reported in a few email discussions: Safari on iOS does not
>>> capture
>>> >>>> audio.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> We could establish that playback is fine. But capturing audio does
>>> not
>>> >>>> work.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> There are currently two tickets we have:
>>> >>>>  - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of audio on Safari/iOS in
>>> >>>> conference room (some other subject but we established that that's
>>> the
>>> >>>> root
>>> >>>> cause)
>>> >>>>  - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of audio on Safari/iOS in
>>> >>>> setup
>>> >>>> testing tool
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> There are various discussions where some think some code change on
>>> our
>>> >>>> end
>>> >>>> would fix it.
>>> >>>> I am not sure about that.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> There seems to be even the official webRTC samples broken for
>>> >>>> Safari/iOS:
>>> >>>> See for example webRTC samples section:
>>> >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/
>>> >>>> => Works in Chrome/iOS
>>> >>>> => Fails in Safari/iOS
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I also started a discussion at discuss-webRTC :
>>> >>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/discuss-webrtc/c/XBeiy3GpVLg/m/kbsCU25IBgAJ
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> In my opinion: Fixing this issue inside OpenMeetings is rather
>>> complex.
>>> >>>> As
>>> >>>> there is a lot of other code. So I would like to see a simple
>>> minimal
>>> >>>> code
>>> >>>> example to start with. If that works fine, I'm convinced we can fix
>>> it
>>> >>>> in
>>> >>>> OpenMeetings too!
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Are there other opinions or ideas on how to approach this ?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If there is no reply or not an answer on discuss-webRTC I would also
>>> >>>> like
>>> >>>> to interview people at Kurento mailing lists.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>> Sebastian
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>>> >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
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>>> >>>>
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>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Best regards,
>>> >>> Maxim
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > Maxim
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>

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