Ruth,
From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[email protected]>
Hi Jacques:
First, thanks for engaging in this discussion. As an outsider who really cares about OFBiz, I find it disheartening that the
project as a whole does not have enough pride in ownership to at least validate basic user facing components. I understand the
project is growing and that is a good thing. But I caution everyone, bigger (and more) is not always better.
I plenty agree. On the other hand OFBiz OOTB is plenty of stuff because it's
intended to demonstrate and show all its possibilities.
While discouraged I'm not going to stop promoting and using OFBiz. IMHO, it is still unrivaled. These are but surface problems
that need attention - sooner rather than later. Since I am an outsider, this list is one of the few mediums I have for voicing my
concerns. Sometimes, however, I feel as though I'm "spitting in the wind".
Second, I applaud all the work you and others have contributed towards the betterment of the project. I continue to be amazed at
the dedication and commitment of many of the developers - you included!
Thank you for us!
Third, I have no problem with filing Jira issues. I have filed several in the past. However, IMHO that is not going to solve this
particular problem. Neither is going back through the commits (as David suggests) to identify the problematic code. IMHO, there is
something fundamentally wrong possibly with the planning process or the manner in which commits are filed. I don't know.
I think Ryan answered you. Filling Jira issues is really the best way to
progress.
Remember it's a community driven project where nobody has the power to decide
alone.
We need to make community decisions. For that we need to organize how to make
these decisions.
Code validation and regression testing is a complex process that needs to be addressed with some rigor if the community ever
expects to move ahead. I am available to help in anyway I can. But, I don't see much discussion or activity in this direction.
You are welcome, if you have ideas about how to organize that.
Put your green hat on (but please don't say "I don't know", I'm sure you know
something ;o)
As for your comment concerning the themes to use: my original comments were directed towards the online demo which, if there is a
way to change the ecommerce product listing theme, it is not well advertised.
Right, but I believe there is currently no real alternative on the eCommerce
side
Finally, I welcome any further discussion on quality control and testing as I really do believe that OFBiz rocks! I want to see it
take its proper place in the world :-)
There are currently such efforts with Selenium, did you follow them ?
Thanks
Jacques
Regards,
Ruth
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Hi Ruth,
When you see an issue just drop a word about it in this ML with a copy of the
url of if you have enough time, please file a Jira.
It should not take too much time. I will also recommend you to use the Flat Grey Theme or at least Blue Light one. Which browser
are you using ?
I suspect some issue with Bizness Time and I'd ask community if we should
revert the default to Flat Grey, at least in trunk ?
BTW I agree with you that some it's discouraging. For instance when you want to apply a patch and have to fix 2 unrelated bugs
before being able to test it. Some time it's even your own bugs :D.
But at the same time, OFBiz is growing and we should not become discouraged.
You may be interested by
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ConfigureReport.jspa?projectOrFilterId=project-12310500&periodName=daily&daysprevious=30&cumulative=true&showUnresolvedTrend=true&versionLabels=major&reportKey=com.atlassian.jira.ext.charting%3Acreatedvsresolved-report&Next=Next
to follow how the project kee up with bugs (not only bugs much Jira are)
Thanks
Jacques
From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[email protected]>
Hi Scott:
Sorry to say there isn't enough time in the day for me to report all the rendering problems I see in this release. For example,
try adding a product to the cart and observe how the the shopping cart summary links (on the right column) under "Cart Summary"
overlap each other. Or, attempt to do a quick checkout (without logging in) and observe that the left column renders on the left
bottom of the page starting at a horizontal position below the right column - leaving a huge empty white space between the left
margin of the browser and the right column.
I'm just a little discouraged at how little testing is done with each new release. It seems to get worse and not better as time
goes on.
Regards,
Ruth
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Ruth Hoffman, Author, Mentor & OFBiz Enthusiast
[email protected]
Looking for more OFBiz info, please visit my website: http://www.myofbiz.com
Scott Gray wrote:
Hi Ruth
The demo is just a checkout of the trunk so the issue is for whoever maintains OFBiz (the community) rather than the demo
server. Please feel free to create a jira issue for the problem.
Regards
Scott
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
On 12/10/2009, at 11:23 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
To Whoever Maintains the Demo Server:
http://demo.ofbiz.org/ecommerce
Try searching on GZ-BASKET and observe the results. Quick synopsis of problem: The first entry is rendered properly but then
the subsequent results fall below both side bar columns (regardless of how I resize my browser.) I can't capture a screen shot
of this because I am not able to display all entries within the bounds of my 15" display.
I'm using Firefox 3.5.3 on a MAC 10.4
Regards,
Ruth
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Ruth Hoffman, Author, Mentor & OFBiz Enthusiast
[email protected]
Looking for more OFBiz info, please visit my website: http://www.myofbiz.com
