Hi Jacques:
First, thanks for engaging in this discussion. As an outsider who really
cares about OFBiz, I find it disheartening that the project as a whole
does not have enough pride in ownership to at least validate basic user
facing components. I understand the project is growing and that is a
good thing. But I caution everyone, bigger (and more) is not always better.
While discouraged I'm not going to stop promoting and using OFBiz. IMHO,
it is still unrivaled. These are but surface problems that need
attention - sooner rather than later. Since I am an outsider, this list
is one of the few mediums I have for voicing my concerns. Sometimes,
however, I feel as though I'm "spitting in the wind".
Second, I applaud all the work you and others have contributed towards
the betterment of the project. I continue to be amazed at the dedication
and commitment of many of the developers - you included!
Third, I have no problem with filing Jira issues. I have filed several
in the past. However, IMHO that is not going to solve this particular
problem. Neither is going back through the commits (as David suggests)
to identify the problematic code. IMHO, there is something fundamentally
wrong possibly with the planning process or the manner in which commits
are filed. I don't know.
Code validation and regression testing is a complex process that needs
to be addressed with some rigor if the community ever expects to move
ahead. I am available to help in anyway I can. But, I don't see much
discussion or activity in this direction.
As for your comment concerning the themes to use: my original comments
were directed towards the online demo which, if there is a way to change
the ecommerce product listing theme, it is not well advertised.
Finally, I welcome any further discussion on quality control and testing
as I really do believe that OFBiz rocks! I want to see it take its
proper place in the world :-)
Regards,
Ruth
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Hi Ruth,
When you see an issue just drop a word about it in this ML with a copy
of the url of if you have enough time, please file a Jira.
It should not take too much time. I will also recommend you to use the
Flat Grey Theme or at least Blue Light one. Which browser are you using ?
I suspect some issue with Bizness Time and I'd ask community if we
should revert the default to Flat Grey, at least in trunk ?
BTW I agree with you that some it's discouraging. For instance when
you want to apply a patch and have to fix 2 unrelated bugs before
being able to test it. Some time it's even your own bugs :D.
But at the same time, OFBiz is growing and we should not become
discouraged.
You may be interested by
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ConfigureReport.jspa?projectOrFilterId=project-12310500&periodName=daily&daysprevious=30&cumulative=true&showUnresolvedTrend=true&versionLabels=major&reportKey=com.atlassian.jira.ext.charting%3Acreatedvsresolved-report&Next=Next
to follow how the project kee up with bugs (not only bugs much Jira are)
Thanks
Jacques
From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[email protected]>
Hi Scott:
Sorry to say there isn't enough time in the day for me to report all
the rendering problems I see in this release. For example, try adding
a product to the cart and observe how the the shopping cart summary
links (on the right column) under "Cart Summary" overlap each other.
Or, attempt to do a quick checkout (without logging in) and observe
that the left column renders on the left bottom of the page starting
at a horizontal position below the right column - leaving a huge
empty white space between the left margin of the browser and the
right column.
I'm just a little discouraged at how little testing is done with each
new release. It seems to get worse and not better as time goes on.
Regards,
Ruth
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Ruth Hoffman, Author, Mentor & OFBiz Enthusiast
[email protected]
Looking for more OFBiz info, please visit my website:
http://www.myofbiz.com
Scott Gray wrote:
Hi Ruth
The demo is just a checkout of the trunk so the issue is for whoever
maintains OFBiz (the community) rather than the demo server. Please
feel free to create a jira issue for the problem.
Regards
Scott
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
On 12/10/2009, at 11:23 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
To Whoever Maintains the Demo Server:
http://demo.ofbiz.org/ecommerce
Try searching on GZ-BASKET and observe the results. Quick synopsis
of problem: The first entry is rendered properly but then the
subsequent results fall below both side bar columns (regardless of
how I resize my browser.) I can't capture a screen shot of this
because I am not able to display all entries within the bounds of
my 15" display.
I'm using Firefox 3.5.3 on a MAC 10.4
Regards,
Ruth
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Ruth Hoffman, Author, Mentor & OFBiz Enthusiast
[email protected]
Looking for more OFBiz info, please visit my website:
http://www.myofbiz.com
