Hi,

It works pretty well but... still problems sometimes occur
Do we have to separate operations ?

Here after Orc files content:
hive --orcfiledump hdfs://XXXX/delta_0198994_0198994_0000/bucket_00000 
{"operation":0,"originalTransaction":198994,"bucket":0,"rowId":14,"currentTransaction":198994,"row":{...}}

hive --orcfiledump hdfs://XXXX/delta_0199073_0199073_0000/bucket_00000 
{"operation":1,"originalTransaction":198994,"bucket":0,"rowId":14,"currentTransaction":199073,"row":{...}}

=> When I execute a SELECT statement on the PK I see 2 records. The link is not 
done.
Still, the meta looks good.
The only difference I see is that in Orc files I mix operations.
When I perform a MERGE statement for example 2 directories have been created 
 hdfs://XXXX/delta_0199073_0199073_0000
 hdfs://XXXX/delta_0199073_0199073_0002
And the first one contains updates (operation:1) and the second one, inserts 
(operation:0)

Thanks for your help
David

On 2019/12/01 16:57:08, David Morin <morin.david....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> At the moment I have a pipeline based on Flink to write Orc Files. These Orc 
> Files can be read from Hive thanks to external tables and, then, a merge 
> statement (triggered by oozie) push these data into tables managed by Hive 
> (transactional tables => ORC). Hive version is 2.1 because this is the one 
> provided by HDP 2.6.5.
> We've developed a system that write Hive Delta Files for the managed tables 
> directly from Flink.
> The current streaming apis for Hive 2 are not suitable for our needs and we 
> cannot use the new Hive 3 streaming api yet. This system uses the Flink state 
> to store Hive metadata (originalTransaction, bucket, rowId, ..)
> Thanks for your reply because yes, when files are ordered by 
> originalTransacion, bucket, rowId
> it works ! I just have to use 1 transaction instead of 2 at the moment and it 
> will be ok.
> 
> Thanks
> David
> 
> On 2019/11/29 11:18:05, Peter Vary <pv...@cloudera.com> wrote: 
> > Hi David,
> > 
> > Not entirely sure what you are doing here :), my guess is that you are 
> > trying to write ACID tables outside of hive. Am I right? What is the exact 
> > use-case? There might be better solutions out there than writing the files 
> > by hand.
> > 
> > As for your question below: Yes, the files should be ordered by: 
> > originalTransacion, bucket, rowId triple, otherwise you will get wrong 
> > results.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Peter
> > 
> > > On Nov 19, 2019, at 13:30, David Morin <morin.david....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > here after more details about ORC content and the fact we have duplicate 
> > > rows:
> > > 
> > > /delta_0011365_0011365_0000/bucket_00003
> > > 
> > > {"operation":0,"originalTransaction":11365,"bucket":3,"rowId":0,"currentTransaction":11365,"row":{"TS":1574156027915254212,"cle":5218,...}}
> > > {"operation":0,"originalTransaction":11365,"bucket":3,"rowId":1,"currentTransaction":11365,"row":{"TS":1574156027915075038,"cle":5216,...}}
> > > 
> > > 
> > > /delta_0011368_0011368_0000/bucket_00003
> > > 
> > > {"operation":2,"originalTransaction":11365,"bucket":3,"rowId":1,"currentTransaction":11368,"row":null}
> > > {"operation":2,"originalTransaction":11365,"bucket":3,"rowId":0,"currentTransaction":11368,"row":null}
> > > 
> > > /delta_0011369_0011369_0000/bucket_00003
> > > 
> > > {"operation":0,"originalTransaction":11369,"bucket":3,"rowId":1,"currentTransaction":11369,"row":{"TS":1574157407855174144,"cle":5216,...}}
> > > {"operation":0,"originalTransaction":11369,"bucket":3,"rowId":0,"currentTransaction":11369,"row":{"TS":1574157407855265906,"cle":5218,...}}
> > > 
> > > +-------------------------------------------------+-------+--+
> > > |                     row__id                     |  cle  |
> > > +-------------------------------------------------+-------+--+
> > > | {"transactionid":11367,"bucketid":0,"rowid":0}  | 5209  |
> > > | {"transactionid":11369,"bucketid":0,"rowid":0}  | 5211  |
> > > | {"transactionid":11369,"bucketid":1,"rowid":0}  | 5210  |
> > > | {"transactionid":11369,"bucketid":2,"rowid":0}  | 5214  |
> > > | {"transactionid":11369,"bucketid":2,"rowid":1}  | 5215  |
> > > | {"transactionid":11365,"bucketid":3,"rowid":0}  | 5218  |
> > > | {"transactionid":11365,"bucketid":3,"rowid":1}  | 5216  |
> > > | {"transactionid":11369,"bucketid":3,"rowid":1}  | 5216  |
> > > | {"transactionid":11369,"bucketid":3,"rowid":0}  | 5218  |
> > > | {"transactionid":11369,"bucketid":4,"rowid":0}  | 5217  |
> > > | {"transactionid":11369,"bucketid":4,"rowid":1}  | 5213  |
> > > | {"transactionid":11369,"bucketid":7,"rowid":0}  | 5212  |
> > > +-------------------------------------------------+-------+--+
> > > 
> > > As you can see we have duplicate rows for column "cle" 5216 and 5218
> > > Do we have to keep the rowids ordered ? because this is the only 
> > > difference I have noticed based on some tests with beeline.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Le mar. 19 nov. 2019 à 00:18, David Morin <morin.david....@gmail.com 
> > > <mailto:morin.david....@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I'm trying to understand the purpose of the rowid column inside ORC delta 
> > > file
> > > {"transactionid":11359,"bucketid":5,"rowid":0}
> > > Orc view: 
> > > {"operation":0,"originalTransaction":11359,"bucket":5,"rowId":0,"currentTransaction":11359,"row":...}
> > > I use HDP 2.6 => Hive 2
> > > 
> > > If I want to be idempotent with INSERT / DELETE / INSERT. 
> > > Do we have to keep the same rowid ?
> > > It seems that when the rowid is changed during the second INSERT I have a 
> > > duplicate row.
> > > For me, I can create a new rowid for the new transaction during the 
> > > second INSERT but that seems to generate duplicate records.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > David
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 

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