Definitely our intent is to start with an in house specific Blue Green
operator and once we will reach some level of confidence we will open a
FLIP to discuss it.

Nicolas

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 10:12 AM Gyula Fóra <gyula.f...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The main concern as we discussed in previous mailing list threads before
> is the general applicability of such solution:
>
>  - Many production jobs cannot really afford running in parallel (starting
> the second job while the first one is running), due to data
> consistency/duplications reasons
>  - Exactly once sinks do not really support this
>
> So I think we should start with this maybe as an independent effort /
> external library and if we see that it works we could discuss it in a FLIP.
>
> What do you think?
> Gyula
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 9:23 AM Nicolas Fraison <
> nicolas.frai...@datadoghq.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Gyula for your feedback.
>>
>> We were also thinking of relying on such a solution, creating a dedicated
>> crd/operator to manage this BlueGreenFlinkDeployment.
>> Good to hear that it could be incorporated later in the operator.
>>
>> Will let you know once we will have something to share with you.
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 4:28 PM Gyula Fóra <gyula.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey!
>>>
>>> I don't know if anyone has implemented this or not but one way to
>>> approach this problem (and this may not be the right way, just an idea :) )
>>> is to add a new Custom Resource type that sits on top of the
>>> FlinkDeployment / FlinkSessionJob resources and add a small controller for
>>> this.
>>>
>>> This new custom resource, BlueGreenDeployment, would be somewhat similar
>>> to how a Replicaset vs Pod works in Kubernetes. It would create a new
>>> FlinkDeployment and would delete the old one once the new reached a healthy
>>> running state.
>>>
>>> Adding a new CR allows us to not overcomplicate the existing
>>> resource/controller loop but simply leverage it. If you prototype something
>>> along these lines, please feel free to share and then we can discuss if we
>>> want to incorporate something like this in the operator repo in the future
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Gyula
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 1:21 PM Nicolas Fraison via user <
>>> user@flink.apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> From https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-29199 it seems that
>>>> support for blue green deployment will not be supported or will not happen
>>>> soon.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to know if some of you have built a custom mechanism on top of
>>>> this operator to support the blue green deployment and if you would have
>>>> any advice on implementing this?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Nicolas Fraison (he/him)
>>>>
>>>

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