Thanks Robert. I think it would be easy enough to test this hypothesis by
making the same comparison with some simpler state inside the aggregation
window.

On Wed, 16 Jun 2021, 7:58 pm Robert Metzger, <rmetz...@apache.org> wrote:

> Depending on the datatypes you are using, seeing 3x more CPU usage seems
> realistic.
> Serialization can be quite expensive. See also:
> https://flink.apache.org/news/2020/04/15/flink-serialization-tuning-vol-1.html
> Maybe it makes sense to optimize there a bit.
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 5:23 PM JING ZHANG <beyond1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Padarn,
>> After switch stateBackend from filesystem to rocksdb, all reads/writes
>> from/to backend have to go through de-/serialization to retrieve/store the
>> state objects, this may cause more cpu cost.
>> But I'm not sure it is the main reason leads to 3x CPU cost in your job.
>> To find out the reason, we need more profile on CPU cost, such as Flame
>> Graphs. BTW, starting with Flink 1.13, Flame Graphs are natively supported
>> in Flink[1].
>>
>> [1]
>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.13/docs/ops/debugging/flame_graphs/
>>
>> Best,
>> JING ZHANG
>>
>> Padarn Wilson <pad...@gmail.com> 于2021年6月15日周二 下午5:05写道:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We have a job that we just enabled rocksdb on (instead of file backend),
>>> and see that the CPU usage is almost 3x greater on (we had to increase
>>> taskmanagers 3x to get it to run.
>>>
>>> I don't really understand this, is there something we can look at to
>>> understand why CPU use is so high? Our state mostly consists of aggregation
>>> windows.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Padarn
>>>
>>

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