Thank you,

That's unfortunate, because I imagine we often will want to duplicate a job
in order to do some testing out-of-bound from the normal job while slightly
tweaking / tuning things. Is there any way to transfer offsets between
consumer groups?

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 5:45 AM Piotr Nowojski <pnowoj...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > I read this as, "The offsets committed to Kafka are ignored, the offsets
> committed within a checkpoint are used".
>
> yes, exactly
>
> > So from the sounds of things, regardless of the consumer group's
> offsets, it will always start from a checkpoint or savepoints offsets if
> there are some (unless checkpointing offsets is turned off).
>
> Yes. But, keep in mind this part:
>
> > setStartFromGroupOffsets (default behaviour): Start reading partitions
> from the consumer group’s (group.id setting in the consumer properties)
> committed offsets in Kafka brokers.* If offsets could not be found for a
> partition, the auto.offset.reset setting in the properties will be used.*
>
> As I understand it, if you are using the default
> `setStartFromGroupOffsets`, and you happen to change `group.id` (which is
> what I believe you were asking about in the first e-mail), after changing
> the `group.id` FlinkKafkaConsumer will not be able to found previously
> saved offsets in the Flink's state and it will start reading from
> completely new set of offsets. The same way as if this would be a freshly
> started new job without any state. Those new offsets would be as
> specified/defined via `auto.offset.reset`.
>
> Piotrek
>
>
> pon., 18 sty 2021 o 18:12 Rex Fenley <r...@remind101.com> napisał(a):
>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Some parts that stick out
>> >The Flink Kafka Consumer allows configuring the behaviour of how offsets
>> are committed back to Kafka brokers. Note that the Flink Kafka Consumer
>> does not rely on the committed offsets for fault tolerance guarantees. The
>> committed offsets are only a means to expose the consumer’s progress for
>> monitoring purposes.
>>
>> I read this as, "The offsets committed to Kafka are ignored, the offsets
>> committed within a checkpoint are used".
>>
>> >With Flink’s checkpointing enabled, the Flink Kafka Consumer will
>> consume records from a topic and periodically checkpoint all its Kafka
>> offsets, together with the state of other operations. In case of a job
>> failure, Flink will restore the streaming program to the state of the
>> latest checkpoint and re-consume the records from Kafka, starting from the
>> offsets that were stored in the checkpoint.
>>
>> This seems to say something similar.
>>
>> So from the sounds of things, regardless of the consumer group's offsets,
>> it will always start from a checkpoint or savepoints offsets if there are
>> some (unless checkpointing offsets is turned off).
>>
>> Is this interpretation correct?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 3:23 AM Piotr Nowojski <pnowoj...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rex,
>>>
>>> I believe this section answers your question [1]
>>>
>>> Piotrek
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-stable/dev/connectors/kafka.html#kafka-consumers-start-position-configuration
>>>
>>> pon., 18 sty 2021 o 09:00 赵一旦 <hinobl...@gmail.com> napisał(a):
>>>
>>>> If you changed the consumer group in your new job, the group id will be
>>>> the new one you set.
>>>> The job will continue to consumer the topics from the
>>>> savepoint/checkpoint you specified no matter whether the group id is the
>>>> original one?
>>>>
>>>> Rex Fenley <r...@remind101.com> 于2021年1月18日周一 下午12:53写道:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> When using the Kafka consumer connector, if we restore a from a
>>>>> checkpoint or savepoint using a differently named consumer group than the
>>>>> one we originally ran a job with will it still pick up exactly where it
>>>>> left off or are you locked into using the same consumer group as before?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
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