Oh sorry, my fault. When I wrote it, I had iterations in mind.

What I actually wanted to say, how "resuming from intermediate results"
will work with (non-nested) "non-Flink" iterations? And with iterations I
mean something like this:

while(...):
  - change params
  - submit to cluster

where the executed Flink-program is more or less the same at each
iterations. But with changing input sets, which are reused between
different loop iterations.

I might got something wrong, because in our group we mentioned caching a lá
Spark for Flink and someone came up that "pinning" will do that. Is that
somewhat right?

Thanks and Cheers,
Max

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Maximilian Michels <m...@apache.org> wrote:

>  "So it is up to debate how the support for resuming from intermediate
> results will look like." -> What's the current state of that debate?
>
> Since there is no support for nested iterations that I know of, the debate
> how intermediate results are integrated has not started yet.
>
>
>> "Intermediate results are not produced within the iterations cycles." ->
>> Ok, if there are none, what does it have to do with that debate? :-)
>>
>
> I was referring to the existing support for intermediate results within
> iterations. If we were to implement nested iterations, this could
> (possibly) change. This is all very theoretical because there are no plans
> to support nested iterations.
>
> Hope this clarifies. Otherwise, please restate your question because I
> might have misunderstood.
>
> Cheers,
> Max
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Maximilian Alber <
> alber.maximil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the answer! But I need some clarification:
>>
>> "So it is up to debate how the support for resuming from intermediate
>> results will look like." -> What's the current state of that debate?
>> "Intermediate results are not produced within the iterations cycles." ->
>> Ok, if there are none, what does it have to do with that debate? :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Max
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Maximilian Michels <m...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Max,
>>>
>>> You are right, there is no support for nested iterations yet. As far as
>>> I know, there are no concrete plans to add support for it. So it is up to
>>> debate how the support for resuming from intermediate results will look
>>> like. Intermediate results are not produced within the iterations cycles.
>>> Same would be true for nested iterations. So the behavior for resuming from
>>> intermediate results should be alike for nested iterations.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Max
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Maximilian Alber <
>>> alber.maximil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Flinksters,
>>>>
>>>> as far as I know, there is still no support for nested iterations
>>>> planned. Am I right?
>>>>
>>>> So my question is how such use cases should be handled in the future.
>>>> More specific: when pinning/caching will be available, you suggest to
>>>> use that feature and program in "Spark" style? Or is there some other, more
>>>> flexible, mechanism planned for loops?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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