Hi Vincent, clownix wrote: > I still don't get the reason behind the question, I am just curious, > you must have a good reason and the way I use uml, I never need more > than graphical applications. There could be lots of reasons, obviously I can only speak for myself (not sure what the original poster's intent was) and top of my list would be security: running UML in graphical framebuffer that only interacts with the local X server at the pixel level will be infinitely more secure. Another important one is that the X server would not be aware of the fact that it is running virtualized, whereas using ssh/Xvnc/etc does require explicit user setup, which is not ideal for testing unmodified generic setups. I really do think this would be a great feature to add to UML. I would have thought that adding a simple memory backed framebuffer should be easy enough.. (from memory, there was more to it than that though..)
> nagafix is a place where there are uml linux and rootfs, I also make > machines, but I make my kvms with a boot sector and grub in it, how can > you mix your rootfs so that you can do both uml and kvm? KVM can handle raw disks just like UML. What is the difficulty you are encountering? Antoine > Vincent > > > > > > Le lundi 28 décembre 2009 à 23:43 +0700, Antoine Martin a écrit : >> clownix wrote: >>> I do not understand the need here, any application such as wireshark, >>> firefox ... can be run graphically with ony a ssh and xforwarding, why >>> exactly would we need a link to the real hardware? >> Err, the answer is in the original question: >>>>>> Does anybody knows if is doable to run X in uml (not Xnest or >> similars) ? >> >> Antoine >> >>> Le lundi 28 décembre 2009 à 14:47 +0700, Antoine Martin a écrit : >>>> Anselm Lingnau wrote: >>>>> Rodrigo Baroni wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Does anybody knows if is doable to run X in uml (not Xnest or >>>>>> similars) ? >>>>> The problem with this idea is that a »real« X server expects to talk to >>>>> graphics hardware of some description. VMware & co. solve this problem by >>>>> actually emulating the registers etc. of a suitable graphics chip, but >>>>> UML >>>>> doesn't really deal in hardware; all it does is to present a Linux system >>>>> call >>>>> interface. >>>>> >>>>> I suspect the nearest thing to a »real« X server on UML would be >>>>> something >>>>> like Xvnc, which gives you a desktop-type X session that you can connect >>>>> to >>>>> using a VNC client. >>>> Adding framebuffer support to UML shouldn't be that hard. >>>> >>>> There was a patch which did that (never worked for me), you could then >>>> run X with the fbdev driver. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community >>>> Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support >>>> A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and >>>> easy >>>> Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> User-mode-linux-user mailing list >>>> User-mode-linux-user@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/user-mode-linux-user >>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev _______________________________________________ User-mode-linux-user mailing list User-mode-linux-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/user-mode-linux-user
