On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, Blaisorblade wrote:
On Thursday 23 March 2006 04:34, David Lang wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Blaisorblade wrote:
On Thursday 23 March 2006 02:09, Nix wrote:
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, David Lang uttered the following:
Debian there is trying to be smart anyway and helping the user which
forgot "make" (and possibly will skip "make" if ! [ -x /usr/bin/make ]),
however the problem lies in the setup somewhere (I hope that a legitimate
setup wouldn't give such a result, or I'll want to share what these
maintainers smoked :-) ).
but why would it keep doing so on every bootup?
No idea, I guessed the behaviour of a script which I never saw. I'd read the
source and possibly run it through sh -x to better see what's happening.
However, I'd guess that if it succeeded it would stop doing that, likely.
in the case of my uml userspace I think it's got exim in there instead of
sendmail, but on my other boxes I know sendmail if fully configured and
right, but debian keeps insisting on starting it when the first interface
is started, rather then waiting until they are all started (at which time
it _would_ be able to reach it's DNS server)
What does the DNS server matter? I didn't mention it.
I mentioned that on my firewall at home when the first interface comes up
the startup script attempts to start sendmail. since that interface isn't
the one that the firewall uses to talk to the outside world DNS doesn't
work yet and so the boot hangs for 30 seconds until sendmail times out.
later, after other interfaces are started, sendmail gets started in it's
normal place in the boot sequence and everything works.
this is an annoyance for me, but I haven't taken the time (yet) to track
down the offending script and scream at the debian developer who thought
that this is a good idea.
I mentioned it as an example that showed that this was not a 'do this
until it suceeds' type of thing, but is instead a 'do this every time'
type of thing.
for this list the key thing is that it's unrelated to UML, it's a distro
issue.
David Lang
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