On 06/07/15 20:11, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Richmond wrote:
> On 05/07/15 20:18, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>
>> I believe both the RQCC being down and the bug itself may be related
>> to the recent DDoS attack. I'm unable to reproduce this issue this
>> morning under Ubuntu 14.10. I would try again while the servers
>> appear to be working well.
>
> This is a load of nonsense: see my new notes over at the bug report.
>
> Richmond.
I was volunteering time away from business and personal things on a
holiday weekend to try to help you, and that's how you respond?
I'm sorry: all sorts of things were happening at once.
AS I had tried starting 6.7.6 up while my machine was disconnected from
the internet it obviously had nothing at all to do with DDoS attacks.
Now, at work today I installed 6.7.6 on 3 machines which are never
connected to the internet [they had their Xubuntu 14.04 systems installed
from one of those DVDs one can use so one doesn't need internet access.
A very similar situation.
Maybe your keyboard got stuck when you were trying to type "Thanks for
trying, but that doesn't resolve the issue."
No, my keyboard did not get stuck; I was in a filthy mood for all sorts
of reasons, 6.7.6 being just one of them, and as I was installing it
from an installer I had downloaded rather than using LiveCode's in-built
upgrader the stuff about DDoS was 'nonsense', like it or not.
My suggestion was based on the following:
- The LiveCode servers had been under periodic DDoS attacks over the
previous few days.
- The LiveCode IDE makes some calls to their servers to verify accounts
for opt-in features like the Dictionary comments and RevOnline.
Not if it is installed on a machine that has NO internet access.
I, successfully, installed 7.0.6 on several of my never-had-internet
machines at school today.
- I was unable to reproduce the problem you'd reported on Xubuntu while
I was running Ubuntu and Lubuntu, which are similar enough to Xubuntu
be relevant here.
- You noted LiveCode was able to run but stopped at a point well after
engine initialization, suggesting something script-related rather than
compatibility of the engine with your OS config.
- The DDoS attacks had stopped at the time I was unable to reproduce
the issue.
- My reply here was before you'd posted your follow-up to that report.
Given all this, although apparently I didn't guess correctly it wasn't
a bad first stab at a diagnosis.
I did read the comment there you'd posted later, and by now I trust
you've also read Hanson's:
that is odd. We test all the installers for installation and
execution before they get shipped. I also just tested the
installation again, just in case we had missed something, but
it installs just fine for "You only" on a non-root account.
As Richard suggests, have you been able to install other versions
of LiveCode on the machine you are trying to install 6.7.6?
The report is currently marked "Pending Awaiting Follow-Up", and with
any luck as you provide the information the team needs to reproduce
this they'll be able to find a solution for you.
In the meantime, when someone goes out of their way to try to help you
and you don't understand their methods, what you have is a question,
not a reason to dismiss their help as "nonsense".
I would not have dismissed something as nonsense had I been able to see
some sense in it.
As very many people have used far stronger language at me in the past,
I, personally would never be offended by 'nonsense';
water off a duck's back!
I DO appreciate ALL that you do for LiveCode, unremunerated. And I, from
time-to-time do a bit as well: some of which
has been rubbished in far stronger terms that 'nonsense' - and I am
sufficiently thick-skinned that that does not fuss me.
So, while I am sorry that I miffed you, I do stand by my assessment of
DDoS as the possible cause of this problem.
Best [really!], Richmond.
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