Jacque, you are endlessly patient. I understand everything you say about the PC 
menu and thanks for the handler. My last word on this is that I think perhaps 
just now and then the  menu bar (on PC) **can** count as part of your display 
area - it might be no more intrusive than the station logo which I often see in 
the top left hand corner of the picture on my TV set - it just hijacks a little 
portion of the frame. But in fact you have persuaded my that this is an 
eccentric and minority opinion.

Goodnight from France

Graham

On 12 Apr 2014, at 20:37, J. Landman Gay <jac...@hyperactivesw.com> wrote:

> The critical piece that isn't always clear is that the menu bar doesn't count 
> as part of your display area; 

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