Thanks Jacque, it's always good to hear your advice. Sadly in this case, there 
isn't a group in sight, just a card with quite a bunch of images and graphics 
on it already, which just won't let me draw anything else on it. 

I keep devising different tests, but no luck so far. The drawing tools within 
the IDE toolbar seem pretty robust, so I am going to take a look at their 
scripts. I expect (as is so often true) it will turn out to be something quite 
trivial that I've done: but at bottom I still think it's a bug.

I shan't ask the list again, but if light dawns I will come back and explain it 
in case anyone else gets bit.

Graham

On 9 Jun 2013, at 21:41, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> On 6/9/13 2:17 PM, Graham Samuel wrote:
> 
>> I just can't think what other factors are involved in stopping these
>> tools working like they do in the IDE. I can't find anything in the
>> LC Dictionary or the User Guide (in fact it would be hard to deduce
>> from either of them that one can offer a user the kind of drawing
>> tools which are present in the IDE, but that's another issue)>
> 
> I think the reason you aren't getting answers is because no one knows. Is the 
> graphic inside a group? Something similar just came up in the forums recently 
> only it was related to an image that couldn't be moved. It's a bug in the 
> engine. In this case the problem was setting the vScrollbar of the group to 
> true; if that was removed then it worked normally.
> 
> I don't know if your problem is similar or not, but if the graphic is in a 
> group and the one that works is not in a group, it may be related.
> 
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