Yes, it really is a shame what is happening. I understand that LiveCode has every right to monetize their product. I would be more than willing to donate a small amount on top of the license fee to support LiveCode. Working with something so similar to HyperCard is truly enjoyable, and the LiveCode community is fantastic. However, this significant increase in development costs is a major concern.

There are free alternatives like Flutter (which supports both desktop and mobile development), Electron, NW.js, NeutralinoJS, and Lazarus (for desktop). Unfortunately, these tools use programming languages that are much less user-friendly than LiveCode, such as Dart, JavaScript, and Pascal. Additionally, with Electron and NeutralinoJS, you cannot hide the source code.

Best regards,
Heriberto

On 7/26/24 11:53, Colin Kelly wrote:

Hi Heriberto,

I find myself in a very similar situation with 180+ employees the new licensing modal is not suitable for the MSE space, at least, not for our specific needs. Such a shame that after 10 years of working with LC and being along for the ride as the product **nearly** matures I too will have to leave the LC community and seek alternatives…

Col.

*From: *use-livecode <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com> on behalf of Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
*Date: *Friday, 26 July 2024 at 16:37
*To: *Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
*Cc: *Heriberto Torrado <htorr...@networkdreams.net>
*Subject: *Re: Livecode Future

Hi Bob,

Thank you very much for clarifying my question. Based on your response,
it's clear that LiveCode is not suitable for our needs.

In my current role at the new company, I've developed several small
applications using LiveCode for internal use: a client onboarding form,
a workflow management app for our printers, and a folder encryption
tool. These are small utilities, and it wouldn't be feasible for each
user to pay $150 per app, resulting in $450 per employee.

I previously purchased the Indy license and intended to buy a similar
one now. However, it seems I will need to find another solution.

As you mentioned, the Mobile development license is not relevant for us
since I only develop desktop applications.

Additionally, our strict security measures mean our firewalls won't
allow LiveCode applications to communicate externally.

After 15 years of working with LiveCode, I've learned that relying on
programming languages  without a big community and free licensing can
lead to significant risks and potential loss of knowledge.

Best regards,
Heriberto

On 7/26/24 11:07, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
> Yes each user who uses your app will require a seat license.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> On Jul 25, 2024, at 5:28 PM, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I apologize for asking my questions again, but after carefully reading the previous email, I am still a bit confused.
>
> My situation is as follows: I work as the IT Director at a company in New York. Among many other responsibilities, I have developed several apps for internal use by our employees. My question is straightforward: With the new licensing model, does each employee need to pay for a license? I am currently using the "Community" version, but it does not work on Apple Silicon devices. Therefore, I am considering purchasing a new license.
>
> Thank you for your assistance.
>
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