Yeah, the order of things seem to make a difference. It is sometimes hard to do 
deltas. My lazy programming style is to rebuild GUI features based on the 
current state whenever there is a change, and then look closer if that gets 
slow. 

> On Aug 21, 2023, at 7:44 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Right, but the weird thing is that with a 4-pixel border and 3d, it isn't 3d. 
> It's a plain gray border with the label appropriately placed. Three pixels 
> works about the same.
> 
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> On August 21, 2023 5:38:26 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Oh right! You can’t have 3D with a 1 pixel border, can you?? I missed that.
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2023, at 3:07 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 8/21/23 11:50 AM, Dar Scott via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> For now, I’m using a temporary solution: I am setting the border width to 
>>>> 1. That might become a long-term workaround.
>>> 
>>> I can reproduce your results. Weird thing: if I leave showName and 
>>> showBorder on, and set the borderWidth to 4, and then turn on 3D I get a 
>>> nice clean gray-ish border without any splits or lines.
>>> 
>>> Tested in LC 9.6.10 RC 1.
>>> 
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