Hi Bob,

I need more detail how to word the command. No need to send in time, just how 
to call that function on a card not in the message path. Thanks!

> On Jun 28, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Send IF you need in time. Stupid spell correct. It cannot be me mistyping. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2022, at 12:08, Bob Sneidar <bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Send in you need in time. Dispatch if you are not sure the handler exists 
>> in the target. Dispatch will not throw an error if there is no handler. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2022, at 11:05, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode 
>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bob,
>>> 
>>> This makes sense.
>>> 
>>> I’m unclear as to how I would structure the command to call a function in a 
>>> card that’s not in the message path. 
>>> 
>>> send … ?
>>> 
>>> Peter Bogdanoff
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 28, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Your point brings up something that was discussed before on this list. 
>>>> It's going to be cleaner in the long run to "compartmentalize" your 
>>>> handlers so that a handler is not trying access objects that are not in 
>>>> the message path, or belong to an object in the message path. A handler 
>>>> should not if at all possible "reach out and touch" something on another 
>>>> card. 
>>>> 
>>>> If you need to get or set something on a card other than the one in the 
>>>> message path of the current handler, it's better to have a command or 
>>>> function in the script of the target card. That way you can say: 
>>>> 
>>>> function returnTheText pFieldName
>>>> return the text of field pFieldName of me
>>>> end returnTheText
>>>> 
>>>> If you DO need to have handlers working in a broader context, then when 
>>>> calling the handler get the long id of the target card first and then pass 
>>>> that in a parameter to the handler. 
>>>> 
>>>> For instance I have a handler called Extract which retrieves to values for 
>>>> every object on a card with certain prefixes in their name like fld or btn 
>>>> or menu. I pass the long id of the card they are on so that there is never 
>>>> any confusion as in: 
>>>> 
>>>> function extract tParentCard
>>>> return the text of field 1 of tParentCard
>>>> end extract
>>>> 
>>>> Bob S
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2022, at 20:27 , Neville Smythe via use-livecode 
>>>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I write
>>>>> 
>>>>> put the long id of field 1 of card 1 into tObject; put the text of tObject
>>>>> 
>>>>> I get the text of field 1 of card 1, right ? Not necessarily.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If field 1 of card 1 is in a shared group, then what I get is the text of 
>>>>> field id something of card id whatever, where whatever is the id of the 
>>>>> current card or maybe the first card containing the group. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is not actually a bug when you read the docs carefully but it 
>>>>> certainly is a trap and in my case a major bug generator. It means this 
>>>>> seemingly obvious way of obtaining the long id of an object (rather, in 
>>>>> this case an instance of an object)  cannot be used to uniquely identify 
>>>>> it when getting its properties.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The workaround is to replace card id (whatever) with card id (the id of 
>>>>> card 1) in tObject;  the properties of tObject returned are then the 
>>>>> properties of the expected instance of the object.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sigh, a new version of nsScriptDatabase coming up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Neville
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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